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GujiMadDog England 01 Dec 20 2.12pm
We have started to refresh the squad with youth, albeit two years too late. Moreover its probably going to take another couple of years before we see a signifacnt drop in squad age. The question is will we still be in the premiership while this happens. While fearing each upcomming season, the past suggests there are ususally 2, if not 3, teams that are evidently worse than us. Touch wood this will hold true going forward. And yes, like most of the premiership, i'm looking downwards not upwards... survival takes priority. We brought in one of own, who put his faith in experienced players and tired n tested tactics to stablise a sinking ship. We have done this. This short term measure is now evolving into a long term view. Although its too early to say whether he can take us forward with a younger squad, I am doubtful. Sorloth left a broken man. Shorn of confidence, after being overlooked for a misfiring Benteke, he was given piecemeal oppotunities to deliver. Alex Meyer showed creative glimpses of what he could do but didnt fit into The Hodgson Way. Now seemingly frozen out, again after being shorn of confidence, of team crying out for creativity in Wilf's absence. Instead, we are offering another year's extension to Benteke. At least we know what we get for £100k a week here. I hope Im proved wrong and Hodgson enables a succesful transition but like I said, I am doubtful Edited by GujiMadDog (01 Dec 2020 2.12pm) Edited by GujiMadDog (01 Dec 2020 2.21pm)
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England 01 Dec 20 2.12pm

We have started to refresh the squad with youth, albeit two years too late. Moreover its probably going to take another couple of years before we see a signifacnt drop in squad age.

The question is will we still be in the premiership while this happens. While fearing each upcomming season, the past suggests there are ususally 2, if not 3, teams that are evidently worse than us. Touch wood this will hold true going forward. And yes, like most of the premiership, i'm looking downwards not upwards... survival takes priority.

We brought in one of own, who put his faith in experienced players and tired n tested tactics to stablise a sinking ship. We have done this.

This short term measure is now evolving into a long term view. Although its too early to say whether he can take us forward with a younger squad, I am doubtful.

Sorloth left a broken man. Shorn of confidence, after being overlooked for a misfiring Benteke, he was given piecemeal oppotunities to deliver.

Alex Meyer showed creative glimpses of what he could do but didnt fit into The Hodgson Way. Now seemingly frozen out, again after being shorn of confidence, of team crying out for creativity in Wilf's absence.

Instead, we are offering another year's extension to Benteke. At least we know what we get for £100k a week here.

I hope Im proved wrong and Hodgson enables a succesful transition but like I said, I am doubtful

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jeeagles 01 Dec 20 2.59pm
Originally posted by PatrickA We really need to be addressing the issue of players out of contact in the summer during the January window. To leave it to the summer would not make sense and would run the risk of a number of players leaving for free in the summer. For those we have no intention of keeping it surely would be prudent to try and sell them and release some value in January. That assumes we have adequate cover in their positions. There are rumours we are in talks with Benteke and Jairo, but I’ve heard nothing about PVA, Townsend, Sakho, Dann, Cahill, Meyer and Guiata. Doesn’t mean talks aren’t happening, but that’s a lot of players who need their futures resolved. All these players have a value though which could potentially be lost if it’s all left until the summer when they could potentially walk for free. I think Riedewald has time remaining on his contract but believe the others finish in the summer. Some would think for example it would be throwing good money after bad to offer Benteke yet another contract. But he still has a value in the market which would be lost if his contract runs down. Should we try and find a buyer in January then? This approach needs to be considered for the others too, and sooner rather than later. We’re only a few weeks from January. Those players cost roughly £100m to assemble and will cost £150m to replace. Benteke's contract renewal isn't too bad considering an unproven replacement will be £20m on the same wage. Although I can see us signing Bats too. We need to keep Benteke, Reidewald, Townsend and Guiata to avoid a hole in the first team. Given Dann and Cahill's age I'd opt for keeping Sakho. Would like to keep Meyer, but doubt he wants to stay, and we have a lot of poor midfielders.
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01 Dec 20 2.59pm

Originally posted by PatrickA

We really need to be addressing the issue of players out of contact in the summer during the January window.
To leave it to the summer would not make sense and would run the risk of a number of players leaving for free in the summer.
For those we have no intention of keeping it surely would be prudent to try and sell them and release some value in January.
That assumes we have adequate cover in their positions.
There are rumours we are in talks with Benteke and Jairo, but I’ve heard nothing about PVA, Townsend, Sakho, Dann, Cahill, Meyer and Guiata.
Doesn’t mean talks aren’t happening, but that’s a lot of players who need their futures resolved.
All these players have a value though which could potentially be lost if it’s all left until the summer when they could potentially walk for free.
I think Riedewald has time remaining on his contract but believe the others finish in the summer.
Some would think for example it would be throwing good money after bad to offer Benteke yet another contract.
But he still has a value in the market which would be lost if his contract runs down.
Should we try and find a buyer in January then?
This approach needs to be considered for the others too, and sooner rather than later.
We’re only a few weeks from January.

Those players cost roughly £100m to assemble and will cost £150m to replace.

Benteke's contract renewal isn't too bad considering an unproven replacement will be £20m on the same wage. Although I can see us signing Bats too.

We need to keep Benteke, Reidewald, Townsend and Guiata to avoid a hole in the first team.

Given Dann and Cahill's age I'd opt for keeping Sakho.

Would like to keep Meyer, but doubt he wants to stay, and we have a lot of poor midfielders.

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eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 01 Dec 20 3.05pm
Originally posted by GujiMadDog We have started to refresh the squad with youth, albeit two years too late. Moreover its probably going to take another couple of years before we see a signifacnt drop in squad age. The question is will we still be in the premiership while this happens. While fearing each upcomming season, the past suggests there are ususally 2, if not 3, teams that are evidently worse than us. Touch wood this will hold true going forward. And yes, like most of the premiership, i'm looking downwards not upwards... survival takes priority. We brought in one of own, who put his faith in experienced players and tired n tested tactics to stablise a sinking ship. We have done this. This short term measure is now evolving into a long term view. Although its too early to say whether he can take us forward with a younger squad, I am doubtful. Sorloth left a broken man. Shorn of confidence, after being overlooked for a misfiring Benteke, he was given piecemeal oppotunities to deliver. Alex Meyer showed creative glimpses of what he could do but didnt fit into The Hodgson Way. Now seemingly frozen out, again after being shorn of confidence, of team crying out for creativity in Wilf's absence. Instead, we are offering another year's extension to Benteke. At least we know what we get for £100k a week here. I hope Im proved wrong and Hodgson enables a succesful transition but like I said, I am doubtful Edited by GujiMadDog (01 Dec 2020 2.12pm) Edited by GujiMadDog (01 Dec 2020 2.21pm) Nice to see you back Guji, hope all is well, miss our drinking episodes, tho, time & circumstance change things. Stay safe my friend. This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.
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On The Road To Hell & Alicante 01 Dec 20 3.05pm

Originally posted by GujiMadDog

We have started to refresh the squad with youth, albeit two years too late. Moreover its probably going to take another couple of years before we see a signifacnt drop in squad age.

We brought in one of own, who put his faith in experienced players and tired n tested tactics to stablise a sinking ship. We have done this.

This short term measure is now evolving into a long term view. Although its too early to say whether he can take us forward with a younger squad, I am doubtful.

Sorloth left a broken man. Shorn of confidence, after being overlooked for a misfiring Benteke, he was given piecemeal oppotunities to deliver.

Instead, we are offering another year's extension to Benteke. At least we know what we get for £100k a week here.

I hope Im proved wrong and Hodgson enables a succesful transition but like I said, I am doubtful

Edited by GujiMadDog (01 Dec 2020 2.12pm)

Edited by GujiMadDog (01 Dec 2020 2.21pm)

Nice to see you back Guji, hope all is well, miss our drinking episodes, tho, time & circumstance change things. Stay safe my friend.

This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 01 Dec 20 3.15pm
Originally posted by jeeagles Those players cost roughly £100m to assemble and will cost £150m to replace. Benteke's contract renewal isn't too bad considering an unproven replacement will be £20m on the same wage. Although I can see us signing Bats too. We need to keep Benteke, Reidewald, Townsend and Guiata to avoid a hole in the first team. Given Dann and Cahill's age I'd opt for keeping Sakho. Would like to keep Meyer, but doubt he wants to stay, and we have a lot of poor midfielders. I am questioning the rationale of extending the contract of a 30 year old striker who has constantly failed to deliver in front of goal season on season and rewarding his dismal and failed efforts with an extension to a lucrative contract. He has scored just 6 PL goals since the start of the 2017-18 season and supporters just don't expect him to score anymore. We will be a 'Laughing stock' in football if Benteke's contract is extended.
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South coast - west of Brighton. 01 Dec 20 3.15pm

Originally posted by jeeagles

Those players cost roughly £100m to assemble and will cost £150m to replace.

Benteke's contract renewal isn't too bad considering an unproven replacement will be £20m on the same wage. Although I can see us signing Bats too.

We need to keep Benteke, Reidewald, Townsend and Guiata to avoid a hole in the first team.

Given Dann and Cahill's age I'd opt for keeping Sakho.

Would like to keep Meyer, but doubt he wants to stay, and we have a lot of poor midfielders.

I am questioning the rationale of extending the contract of a 30 year old striker who has constantly failed to deliver in front of goal season on season and rewarding his dismal and failed efforts with an extension to a lucrative contract.
He has scored just 6 PL goals since the start of the 2017-18 season and supporters just don't expect him to score anymore.

We will be a 'Laughing stock' in football if Benteke's contract is extended.

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 01 Dec 20 3.18pm
Originally posted by Willo I am questioning the rationale of extending the contract of a 30 year old striker who has constantly failed to deliver in front of goal season on season and rewarding his dismal and failed efforts with an extension to a lucrative contract. He has scored just 6 PL goals since the start of the 2017-18 season and supporters just don't expect him to score anymore. We will be a 'Laughing stock' in football if Benteke's contract is extended. I will Boycott attending matches until the New Year if Benteke's contract is renewed. I urge others to follow. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 01 Dec 20 3.18pm

Originally posted by Willo

We will be a 'Laughing stock' in football if Benteke's contract is extended.

I will Boycott attending matches until the New Year if Benteke's contract is renewed. I urge others to follow.

Red and Blue Army!

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southnorwoodhill 01 Dec 20 3.22pm
Originally posted by Willo I am questioning the rationale of extending the contract of a 30 year old striker who has constantly failed to deliver in front of goal season on season and rewarding his dismal and failed efforts with an extension to a lucrative contract. He has scored just 6 PL goals since the start of the 2017-18 season and supporters just don't expect him to score anymore. We will be a 'Laughing stock' in football if Benteke's contract is extended. Should have ditched him last time round. I truly believe that Sorloth could have amassed a greater total, Benteke is that useless! Talk of keeping him must be Stockholm Syndrome associated.
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Originally posted by Willo

We will be a 'Laughing stock' in football if Benteke's contract is extended.

Should have ditched him last time round. I truly believe that Sorloth could have amassed a greater total, Benteke is that useless! Talk of keeping him must be Stockholm Syndrome associated.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 01 Dec 20 3.22pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC I will Boycott attending matches until the New Year if Benteke's contract is renewed. I urge others to follow. Serious questions will be asked. Benteke offers precious little and he drains the club's finances. Let us not forget his contract has already been extended and he has not delivered.
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 01 Dec 20 3.22pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

I will Boycott attending matches until the New Year if Benteke's contract is renewed. I urge others to follow.

Serious questions will be asked.
Benteke offers precious little and he drains the club's finances.
Let us not forget his contract has already been extended and he has not delivered.

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eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 01 Dec 20 3.25pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC I will Boycott attending matches until the New Year if Benteke's contract is renewed. I urge others to follow. WOW, thats a tad harsh, cant you a least relinquish & attend 1? You could at least have a 'Tekkers Out' flag/scarf on show, nes par. This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.
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On The Road To Hell & Alicante 01 Dec 20 3.25pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

I will Boycott attending matches until the New Year if Benteke's contract is renewed. I urge others to follow.

WOW, thats a tad harsh, cant you a least relinquish & attend 1? You could at least have a 'Tekkers Out' flag/scarf on show, nes par.

This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

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cryrst The garden of England 01 Dec 20 4.00pm
If ben went to Sheffield u or fulham he would bag up I'm sure. Ball in the box early from both. Fulham have mitrovic and Sheffield have mcburnie. Double those up and goals will flow. Sadly our style doesnt allow him the chances. Most strikers get 4 or 5 a game and pop 1 or 2 goals. He gets 2 chances a game and is expected to get a double. We use inverted wingers purely because if they come inside and shoot it's on their good foot. Who cares just get it in the box ffs.
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The garden of England 01 Dec 20 4.00pm

If ben went to Sheffield u or fulham he would bag up I'm sure. Ball in the box early from both.
Fulham have mitrovic and Sheffield have mcburnie.
Double those up and goals will flow.
Sadly our style doesnt allow him the chances.
Most strikers get 4 or 5 a game and pop 1 or 2 goals. He gets 2 chances a game and is expected to get a double. We use inverted wingers purely because if they come inside and shoot it's on their good foot. Who cares just get it in the box ffs.

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cantrbury eagle Canterbury 01 Dec 20 5.09pm
Oliie Mcburie has no goals this season Mitrovic has 2 goals hardly prolific
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Oliie Mcburie has no goals this season Mitrovic has 2 goals hardly prolific

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 01 Dec 20 6.41pm
Originally posted by eagleman13 WOW, thats a tad harsh, cant you a least relinquish & attend 1? You could at least have a 'Tekkers Out' flag/scarf on show, nes par. 'Get your Tekkers out' T-shirt sounds cool. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 01 Dec 20 6.41pm

Originally posted by eagleman13

WOW, thats a tad harsh, cant you a least relinquish & attend 1? You could at least have a 'Tekkers Out' flag/scarf on show, nes par.

'Get your Tekkers out' T-shirt sounds cool.

Red and Blue Army!

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 01 Dec 20 6.42pm
Originally posted by cantrbury eagle Oliie Mcburie has no goals this season Mitrovic has 2 goals hardly prolific Our next two signings should fit right in then. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 01 Dec 20 6.42pm

Originally posted by cantrbury eagle

Oliie Mcburie has no goals this season Mitrovic has 2 goals hardly prolific

Our next two signings should fit right in then.

Red and Blue Army!

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