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Hrolf The Ganger 08 Dec 15 6.13pm | |
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23 Islamic countries have apostasy as a crime; in some of these countries it carries the death penalty. There are no Christian countries where apostasy is a crime. Edited by NickRobinson (08 Dec 2015 2.12pm)
The extreme Sunnis are much more of a danger today, obviously. But who is to say in 100 years they will have calmed down and some nutty Evangelicals have taken their place on the terror spectrum? But as we're on it - ours is better than theirs.. Technically ours is a derision from theirs, as both Judaism and Islam are Abrahamic faiths. A lot of Christian Mythology actually stems from Islam (the idea of Devils, Lucifer, the War in Heaven etc aren't Christian or Jewish concepts, they're Islamic).
Anyhow, Christian Mythology and belief is largely from Islamic, Zoroastrian and Jewish sources. A lot of what forms the mythology of Christianity was appropriated from non-biblical middle eastern sources. In fact, the original sources of all these sorts of religious myths are probably pre writing and are derived from older oral history. May the force be with you.
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Tom-the-eagle Croydon 08 Dec 15 6.18pm | |
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Hey listen Jamie - if you ever want to use another big word which you are unsure of, feel free to ping me a quick PM and I will give it the once over for you mate.
Well seeing as you are trying to patronise me Seth I guess you do look like a knob. Your words – not mine.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 08 Dec 15 6.19pm | |
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23 Islamic countries have apostasy as a crime; in some of these countries it carries the death penalty. There are no Christian countries where apostasy is a crime. Edited by NickRobinson (08 Dec 2015 2.12pm)
The extreme Sunnis are much more of a danger today, obviously. But who is to say in 100 years they will have calmed down and some nutty Evangelicals have taken their place on the terror spectrum? When it comes to religion there is no better, there is only bonkers. The difference is that most other mainstream religions are currently not predisposed to killing people to defend their dogma. There aren't many mainstream Islamic faiths that are heavily into killing to protect dogma either though. There are a few maybe and most of them have a direct link to Saudi and Iran. Most of the Radicalised Islamist groups grew out of the national liberation movements and as opposition to oppressive regimes. Faced with violence from state oppression they've responded in kind, which tends to be the norm (resistance to oppressive regimes tends towards armed violence). There is a difference often between the Religious aspects of say Hamas and its political violence (in fact they're two almost completely different bodies and organisations). The problem generally has been that political movements in many Islamic countries tend to require an military presence to ensure their survival, which in the long run doesn't bode well for the type of people who come to power through such means. Ironically, Islamic Jyhad was once a pacifist movement. The result was that Egyptian Authorities conducted mass arrests, torture and executed most of its leadership, unsurprisingly those who remained turned to less 'pleasant' means of protest.
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Seth On a pale blue dot 08 Dec 15 6.26pm | |
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Quote Tom-the-eagle at 08 Dec 2015 5.36pm
Hey listen Jamie - if you ever want to use another big word which you are unsure of, feel free to ping me a quick PM and I will give it the once over for you mate.
Well seeing as you are trying to patronise me Seth I guess you do look like a knob. Your words – not mine. Did you actually read what I wrote?
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Kermit8 Hevon 08 Dec 15 6.34pm | |
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Auto-correct is responsible for a lot of unforced written errors these days. That's why it's best never doing the old grammer Police 'What have we got here, then?'
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Seth On a pale blue dot 08 Dec 15 6.36pm | |
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Quote Kermit8 at 08 Dec 2015 6.34pm
Auto-correct is responsible for a lot of unforced written errors these days. That's why it's best never doing the old grammer Police 'What have we got here, then?'
Quote Tom-the-eagle at 08 Dec 2015 10.15am
I would like it to go on record that most of what I say is pure sh@t anyway
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Hrolf The Ganger 08 Dec 15 10.21pm | |
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Quote NickRobinson at 08 Dec 2015 2.12pm
23 Islamic countries have apostasy as a crime; in some of these countries it carries the death penalty. There are no Christian countries where apostasy is a crime. Edited by NickRobinson (08 Dec 2015 2.12pm)
The extreme Sunnis are much more of a danger today, obviously. But who is to say in 100 years they will have calmed down and some nutty Evangelicals have taken their place on the terror spectrum? When it comes to religion there is no better, there is only bonkers. The difference is that most other mainstream religions are currently not predisposed to killing people to defend their dogma. There aren't many mainstream Islamic faiths that are heavily into killing to protect dogma either though. There are a few maybe and most of them have a direct link to Saudi and Iran. Most of the Radicalised Islamist groups grew out of the national liberation movements and as opposition to oppressive regimes. Faced with violence from state oppression they've responded in kind, which tends to be the norm (resistance to oppressive regimes tends towards armed violence). There is a difference often between the Religious aspects of say Hamas and its political violence (in fact they're two almost completely different bodies and organisations). The problem generally has been that political movements in many Islamic countries tend to require an military presence to ensure their survival, which in the long run doesn't bode well for the type of people who come to power through such means. Ironically, Islamic Jyhad was once a pacifist movement. The result was that Egyptian Authorities conducted mass arrests, torture and executed most of its leadership, unsurprisingly those who remained turned to less 'pleasant' means of protest. Fair enough but if one were able to see the motives behind religious persecution and violence of the past it was likely that they were often for reasons other than pure belief as well. In the end it makes no difference to the person being slain if the perpetrator is doing it for reasons of faith or otherwise, the result is the same. You wouldn't say that the Spanish Inquisition was not perpetrated by devout Catholics would you, even if many prosecutions were for more political reasons. No one would expect that. To be fair those Spaniards were very nice chaps compared to ISIL. Try telling Charlie Hebdo or Salman Rusdie that those Jihadists aren't religious loons but just a bit upset and see what they think about that.
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palace777 belfast 08 Dec 15 11.30pm | |
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Quote Kermit8 at 08 Dec 2015 6.34pm
Auto-correct is responsible for a lot of unforced written errors these days. That's why it's best never doing the old grammer Police 'What have we got here, then?'
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Seth On a pale blue dot 09 Dec 15 12.38am | |
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Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 08 Dec 2015 10.21pm
Try telling Charlie Hebdo or Salman Rusdie that those Jihadists aren't religious loons but just a bit upset and see what they think about that.
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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 09 Dec 15 2.43am | |
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Quote Seth at 09 Dec 2015 12.38am
Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 08 Dec 2015 10.21pm
Try telling Charlie Hebdo or Salman Rusdie that those Jihadists aren't religious loons but just a bit upset and see what they think about that.
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Seth On a pale blue dot 09 Dec 15 12.13pm | |
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Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 08 Dec 2015 10.21pm
Try telling Charlie Hebdo or Salman Rusdie that those Jihadists aren't religious loons but just a bit upset and see what they think about that.
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Hrolf The Ganger 09 Dec 15 12.24pm | |
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Quote Seth at 09 Dec 2015 12.38am
Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 08 Dec 2015 10.21pm
Try telling Charlie Hebdo or Salman Rusdie that those Jihadists aren't religious loons but just a bit upset and see what they think about that.
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