The first lockdown made sense, though certainly beyond that and especially now people need to recognise that lockdowns aren't without major consequences and there is more to the world than a covid head count.

As you say you have “no idea” what I am referring to - have a look at your post on
the 3rd July where you state:

“I fail to understand why, after more than 2 years of Covid experience, people still think wearing masks, respecting social distancing and even having lockdowns is only to ensure you, and others, don't catch Covid”.

As well as your post yesterday which refers to “anti-lockdown” supporters in a negative way.

Each time you continue to talk about lockdowns as an alternative and viable policy I will continue to challenge you.

As retiree with a buy to let portfolio you are pretty much immune and tone deaf to the damage that these ridiculous lockdowns have caused - many others are not so fortunate and there are the children whose education has been badly affected plus the tens of thousands who died as the NHS stopped functioning.

That I have highlighted is true. It doesn't though mean I am a lockdown "lover" at all. It only means the purpose is not solely, or mainly, personal protection.

As a retiree, I am potentially impacted more by a failing NHS than most. Which is the primary reason why they were used. Getting us all vaccinated has enabled their use to be removed and the economy working again. Children's education has been impacted too, but these are trade-offs. Decisions needed to be made.

The NHS didn't stop functioning, but if we had not have locked down it may well have done and many more would have died as a consequence.

This was always a lose, lose situation and a choice of what was the least bad option. Criticism is easy. Making decisions that someone will disagree with was the hard thing.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

I don't want to refer to vaccine safety as I don't want to speak on what I'm not certain about.....and even then I might be wrong.

But what I do think is worth highlighting is that Zuckerberg feels stating doubts on something as his real position is fine to his private audience but something he won't allow people to express on his platform....even if they have a limited audience by making their posts private to their groups

I don't think that's a free society.

[Tweet Link]

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

It's the natural exploitative nature of humanity, which religion teaches against but which nihilism embraces just with the change of warm words to justify it.

It's like the drowning man who instinctively drags down the nearest to him, drowning them too.....actually being encouraged by modern culture to do that.....rather than the culture advising against the urge.

The boomers (obviously not all) were the first generation raised to put their individual interests first over their group interests.....it's obviously compounded since.

Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Jul 2022 12.50pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Yep, I remember the 'we went without' stuff like that being said by my own grandparents.

Our family benefited from their long term view.

Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Jul 2022 12.58pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)