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Stirlingsays 17 Jun 22 3.04pm
Originally posted by becky If children have been at home with a parent/parents/childminder for a year or more and not been talked with or taught to use a pencil, that's down to sheer bad parenting and nothing to do with Covid! True, though today's bad parenting is a reflection of another generation's bad parenting and so on and so forth. Parenting is also a reflection of the current culture and what values are pushed as positive. Still, there are many good parents, it's just that bad apples always stand out and take an oversized amount of resources. Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Jun 2022 3.05pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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17 Jun 22 3.04pm

Originally posted by becky

If children have been at home with a parent/parents/childminder for a year or more and not been talked with or taught to use a pencil, that's down to sheer bad parenting and nothing to do with Covid!

True, though today's bad parenting is a reflection of another generation's bad parenting and so on and so forth. Parenting is also a reflection of the current culture and what values are pushed as positive.

Still, there are many good parents, it's just that bad apples always stand out and take an oversized amount of resources.

Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Jun 2022 3.05pm)

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W12 17 Jun 22 4.01pm
25,405 Cardiac disorders after the #Moderna shot 1,333 died 8,004 not recovered 17,938 were recorded as serious European Medicines Agency 11/06/22 adrreports.eu/en/index.html
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W12 17 Jun 22 4.01pm

25,405 Cardiac disorders after the #Moderna shot

1,333 died

8,004 not recovered
17,938 were recorded as serious

European Medicines Agency
11/06/22

adrreports.eu/en/index.html

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Stirlingsays 17 Jun 22 5.33pm
If repeatable studies find that vaccines killed or contributed to the death or later problems of far more people in younger age groups than it would have saved (personally something I regard as pretty nailed on).....you would think there would be considerable consequences based upon the 'do no harm' medical concept. I don't remember people being told to take vaccines for others yet Government practically told boards to agree to vaccines for youngsters based upon wider issues...which pretty much amounts to the above....and let's not forget that in many work cases people were mandated to take vaccines or lose their living. Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Jun 2022 5.53pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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17 Jun 22 5.33pm

If repeatable studies find that vaccines killed or contributed to the death or later problems of far more people in younger age groups than it would have saved (personally something I regard as pretty nailed on).....you would think there would be considerable consequences based upon the 'do no harm' medical concept.

I don't remember people being told to take vaccines for others yet Government practically told boards to agree to vaccines for youngsters based upon wider issues...which pretty much amounts to the above....and let's not forget that in many work cases people were mandated to take vaccines or lose their living.

Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Jun 2022 5.53pm)

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W12 17 Jun 22 10.40pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays If repeatable studies find that vaccines killed or contributed to the death or later problems of far more people in younger age groups than it would have saved (personally something I regard as pretty nailed on).....you would think there would be considerable consequences based upon the 'do no harm' medical concept. I don't remember people being told to take vaccines for others yet Government practically told boards to agree to vaccines for youngsters based upon wider issues...which pretty much amounts to the above....and let's not forget that in many work cases people were mandated to take vaccines or lose their living. Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Jun 2022 5.53pm) Unfortunately the numbers are in globally and it’s clear that these injections are killing people at no risk of this “thing”. I will continued to post this stuff (until I get banned or people stop listening) because they are giving it to ever younger and younger kids and now babies. That’s it basically. Edited by W12 (17 Jun 2022 10.40pm)
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W12 17 Jun 22 10.40pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Jun 2022 5.53pm)

Unfortunately the numbers are in globally and it’s clear that these injections are killing people at no risk of this “thing”.

I will continued to post this stuff (until I get banned or people stop listening) because they are giving it to ever younger and younger kids and now babies.

That’s it basically.

Edited by W12 (17 Jun 2022 10.40pm)

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Mapletree Croydon 17 Jun 22 11.23pm
Originally posted by W12 25,405 Cardiac disorders after the #Moderna shot 1,333 died 8,004 not recovered 17,938 were recorded as serious European Medicines Agency 11/06/22 adrreports.eu/en/index.html Link doesn’t work How big a population and what would normal rates be? You imply this is excess cases but I doubt that is the case.
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Croydon 17 Jun 22 11.23pm

Originally posted by W12

25,405 Cardiac disorders after the #Moderna shot

1,333 died

8,004 not recovered
17,938 were recorded as serious

European Medicines Agency
11/06/22

adrreports.eu/en/index.html

Link doesn’t work

How big a population and what would normal rates be? You imply this is excess cases but I doubt that is the case.

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BlueJay UK 17 Jun 22 11.44pm
Originally posted by W12 I will continued to post this stuff (until I get banned or people stop listening) Edited by W12 (17 Jun 2022 10.40pm) You're hardly going to get banned for posting links. You seem to be antivax across the board. From the number of deaths prior to vaccination, we know what the impact of that is. Of those I take it you think it's only elderly people at deaths door who died, not people who were otherwise healthy? Only otherwise healthy people did die of covid, so why is that not a point of interest for you, when much less evidenced perspectives are? Edited by BlueJay (17 Jun 2022 11.44pm)
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UK 17 Jun 22 11.44pm

Originally posted by W12

I will continued to post this stuff (until I get banned or people stop listening)

Edited by W12 (17 Jun 2022 10.40pm)

You're hardly going to get banned for posting links.

You seem to be antivax across the board. From the number of deaths prior to vaccination, we know what the impact of that is. Of those I take it you think it's only elderly people at deaths door who died, not people who were otherwise healthy? Only otherwise healthy people did die of covid, so why is that not a point of interest for you, when much less evidenced perspectives are?

Edited by BlueJay (17 Jun 2022 11.44pm)

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Stirlingsays 18 Jun 22 11.28am
This exchange between Sen. Rand Paul & Dr. Anthony Fauci on vaccines and royalties may be of interest. [Link] 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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18 Jun 22 11.28am

This exchange between Sen. Rand Paul & Dr. Anthony Fauci on vaccines and royalties may be of interest.

[Link]

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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W12 19 Jun 22 2.55pm
Originally posted by BlueJay You're hardly going to get banned for posting links. You seem to be antivax across the board. From the number of deaths prior to vaccination, we know what the impact of that is. Of those I take it you think it's only elderly people at deaths door who died, not people who were otherwise healthy? Only otherwise healthy people did die of covid, so why is that not a point of interest for you, when much less evidenced perspectives are? Edited by BlueJay (17 Jun 2022 11.44pm) No healthy people died of covid. None, whatever covid is.
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W12 19 Jun 22 2.55pm

Originally posted by BlueJay

You're hardly going to get banned for posting links.

You seem to be antivax across the board. From the number of deaths prior to vaccination, we know what the impact of that is. Of those I take it you think it's only elderly people at deaths door who died, not people who were otherwise healthy? Only otherwise healthy people did die of covid, so why is that not a point of interest for you, when much less evidenced perspectives are?

Edited by BlueJay (17 Jun 2022 11.44pm)

No healthy people died of covid. None, whatever covid is.

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BlueJay UK 19 Jun 22 4.38pm
Originally posted by W12 No healthy people died of covid. None, whatever covid is. So if your world no healthy person has died of covid.. and enlighten us as to how many healthy people you think have died of covid vacination? Edited by BlueJay (19 Jun 2022 4.51pm)
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UK 19 Jun 22 4.38pm

Originally posted by W12

No healthy people died of covid. None, whatever covid is.

So if your world no healthy person has died of covid.. and enlighten us as to how many healthy people you think have died of covid vacination?

Edited by BlueJay (19 Jun 2022 4.51pm)

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W12 19 Jun 22 5.44pm
Originally posted by BlueJay So if your world no healthy person has died of covid.. and enlighten us as to how many healthy people you think have died of covid vacination? Edited by BlueJay (19 Jun 2022 4.51pm) Not “in my world” - please ditch the wordplay. The minority that have gone against the covid narrative continue to be proved right in all respects. We have the yellow card system and the excess mortality stats to go on. The yellow card system says we have about 2000 deaths but the government says we only have less than 10% of reactions captured. So you can make of that what you will. The real story though is that adverse reactions are now over a million according to yellow card and many of them are serious. What will be the longer term effects of these gene therapies?
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W12 19 Jun 22 5.44pm

Originally posted by BlueJay

So if your world no healthy person has died of covid.. and enlighten us as to how many healthy people you think have died of covid vacination?

Edited by BlueJay (19 Jun 2022 4.51pm)

Not “in my world” - please ditch the wordplay. The minority that have gone against the covid narrative continue to be proved right in all respects.

We have the yellow card system and the excess mortality stats to go on. The yellow card system says we have about 2000 deaths but the government says we only have less than 10% of reactions captured. So you can make of that what you will.

The real story though is that adverse reactions are now over a million according to yellow card and many of them are serious. What will be the longer term effects of these gene therapies?

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BlueJay UK 19 Jun 22 5.49pm
Originally posted by W12 Not “in my world” - please ditch the wordplay. The minority that have gone against the covid narrative continue to be proved right in all respects. We have the yellow card system and the excess mortality stats to go on. The yellow card system says we have about 2000 deaths but the government says we only have less than 10% of reactions captured. So you can make of that what you will. The real story though is that adverse reactions are now over a million according to yellow card and many of them are serious. What will be the longer term effects of these gene therapies? Vaccines don't change your genes. The mRNA from vaccines doesn't enter the cell nucleus or interact with the DNA at all, so is not gene therapy. Calling them that would be 'wordplay'. So your view is that 20,000 perfectly healthy people in the UK have likely died of being vaccinated, and no healthy people of any age have died of covid. Okay thanks. Edited by BlueJay (19 Jun 2022 5.49pm)
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UK 19 Jun 22 5.49pm

Originally posted by W12

Not “in my world” - please ditch the wordplay. The minority that have gone against the covid narrative continue to be proved right in all respects.

The real story though is that adverse reactions are now over a million according to yellow card and many of them are serious. What will be the longer term effects of these gene therapies?

Vaccines don't change your genes. The mRNA from vaccines doesn't enter the cell nucleus or interact with the DNA at all, so is not gene therapy. Calling them that would be 'wordplay'.

So your view is that 20,000 perfectly healthy people in the UK have likely died of being vaccinated, and no healthy people of any age have died of covid. Okay thanks.

Edited by BlueJay (19 Jun 2022 5.49pm)

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cryrst The garden of England 19 Jun 22 7.49pm
Originally posted by W12 No healthy people died of covid. None, whatever covid is. In this context what is the definition of ‘healthy’ . Surely a great deal of us if not all, have underlying health issues however minor or major. An attack by bacteria or virus will kill many whom otherwise would have lead a full life with said underlying condition never surfacing. Your statement is win win but not quite right.
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The garden of England 19 Jun 22 7.49pm

Originally posted by W12

No healthy people died of covid. None, whatever covid is.

In this context what is the definition of ‘healthy’ .
Surely a great deal of us if not all, have underlying health issues however minor or major. An attack by bacteria or virus will kill many whom otherwise would have lead a full life with said underlying condition never surfacing. Your statement is win win but not quite right.

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