No.

I understand the criticisms levelled at Hodgson and from an entertainment perspective it's pretty dire.

Roy is all about pragmatism and organisation. That formula has seen us keep our Premier League status for the last three years. On the two occasions that Parish has endorsed a more expansive style we had major problems. Having Hodgson in the job mitigates the risk of relegation.

If you look at the clubs at the foot of the league, Norwich are easy on the eye and even easier to play against. Bournemouth have turned into a disorganised and dejected group with a manager that has run out of ideas. Villa spent big but not wisely and relegation and loss of their best player in the summer looks inevitable.

West Ham - spent big but have a large number of expensive underachievers. Brighton - ' Potterball ' largely abandoned as it was only taking them in one direction - down. As for Watford, they have imploded in fine style and only three worst teams will keep them up.

So the people that want Roy out, fine...and replace him with who ? Dyche looks a good fit but how long before people complain about his playing style ? Eddie Howe ? - looks shellshocked at the moment.

My dogged support of Roy continues

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Palace fans are the most loyal around in general terms!
Reading through the threads Hodgson is given the benefit of the doubt on everything he does e.g
- the board hasn’t supported him
- he doesn’t try the younger players as he sees them in training every day so they can’t be good enough
- he doesn’t have a decent attacking players
- Sorloth only scores goals in Turkey as it’s a weaker league.

The reality is Hodgson pronounced himself very happy with the squad at the beginning of the season with the addition of Cahill, Ayew and McCarthy.
He jettisoned Camarasa without even giving him a proper opportunity while he will play the likes of Luka every week even when woefully out of form.
Camarasa may not have been good enough but we will never know just as is likely to be the case with Meyer, Riedewald and Sorloth.
Hodgson complains about lack of options from the bench but he sanctioned the loans of Wickham and Sorloth and it is he that shows a marked reluctance to use the players available.
The team give the appearance of being strangers in the rare opportunities it ventures into the attacking half so one assumes the coaching is exclusively tailored to defensive drills.
Finally on set pieces; how can a team containing Benteke, Cahill, Dann, Tomkins and Kouyate score so few goals from set pieces?
Remember the days when Dann was good for 5 or 6 goals a season?
Please can we work on set pieces which continues to be a valuable source of goals in the Premier League.

What’s the fascination with staying in the premier league? The hundreds of millions that we have had from the premier league/sky have inflated wages of crap players Wickham/Sako 50/60 grand a week?
When we are relegated we won’t be going down minted, just trying to offload mercenaries on stupid money, with a ground that’s had a bit of paint and cladding splashed about.
The atmosphere at Selhurst was great in the championship and first 2 years in the top league, no better than anywhere else now.
People may say we will have crowds of 14/16000, in the championship, so what?
Who here started going football to watch 10 players behind the ball at home to a mid table team and celebrate a nil nil?
I want goals, exciting games and Palace wins , not really bothered what league we are in, I’d prefer it to be the top league, but if not don’t care.
I don’t really think it matters who the manger is, they will all be sh*t scared to have a go at other teams , as they would fear the sack.
Manager and players perform with no freedom. The last really good game at Palace was Bournemouth last season, when the result didn’t matter and the players actually played.
The promised land isn’t what it promised, not interested in seeing the best players in the world play against us , I’m a Palace fan.
The top 6 in the championship is better fun than mid/lower table in the premier league, for me anyway.

Are you serious?
The Championship is a different world.

Ideally, I never want to be exposed to that standard of football ever again.

I have always said, and I know it's damn hard, but a club should never get relegated from the richest league in the world and be ruined.

We all know it's hard to make money and not lose money for chairmen, but if you are in the championship and you break even or sorts each year and you get promoted, like how we were, if you don't spend a penny, and go down straight away, that's 100 mil in the bank including parachute payments.
I saw somewhere that our accounts look pretty good... the sale of AWB helped that a lot. So this summer we should be at the point where we have realized... our big earners have to be justified and the smaller earners have to justify why we should give them more...
Right now, Wickham, Benteke, Zaha and Meyer have high wages. Of those, in ym mind, Meyer is the one I would keep.
So, with that in mind, you prepare replacements for two strikers and wilf.

Then you look at who we have and we either make it work or we change and adapt.

So many people are welcoming relegation as a chance to reset, reboot. To one extent, I agree, drastic measure take drastic actions... but as I have said, the club, could just look at this summer as if we have been relegated... and then, plan for life in the champ to get straight back up... so you invest in good champ players with something to prove, who are hungry, unearth quality from abroad that want to shine in the prem... then, with that notion, you then hypothetically 'find yourself back in the prem' and you trust this team until December... in jan transfer window you reassess the situation... if you need to reshuffle, you do... and you find the team that works.

behind the scenes you invest in youth and scouting...

so to sum up, this summer we reinvest... in youth, in prospects.. less on big names, more on potential.. it will be tough, but the back bone in the team is there and over two years the dead wood and big names are out and in is a team that works for itself, gets to stay in the league and enjoys a cup run.

This was once a quality forum....

Goals conceded 14th, 13 teams worse than us.
If not for Liverpool drubbing we would be top three.

See, picking and choosing stats you like is easy

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