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Clownfish 04 Aug 16 12.20am | |
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Originally posted by leifandersonshair
And of course And really, you think Donald Trump will give 2 hoots about what a foreign news broadcaster is saying? Of course not. Also, apologies if it sounded like I was accusing you of being hard right- not my intention. I merely meant the hard right and hard left (in general) both think the BBC are biased against them. Even the former BBC Trust chairman said the same mate. They're not even hiding it. Attachment: -thkqkM24xKK36ao-1DyQe5QEtGa2uur3JA7ufcmFWc.jpg (147.89Kb)
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Clownfish 04 Aug 16 12.39am | |
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Originally posted by EaglesEaglesEagles
I agree with this statement. Some of it may come down to media timing. Early August is not weeks away from the actual election. Bang on. You don't get lower than belittling a dead war heroes family. -Fury as Trump mocks Muslim soldier's mother Ghazala Khan- There was fury and he did mock her in that he wasn't seriously asking the question, he was trying to get back at and belittle the family as result of their impactful appearance at the dem convention. Edited by Clownfish (04 Aug 2016 1.45am)
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pefwin Where you have to have an English ... 04 Aug 16 11.23am | |
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Originally posted by Clownfish
Bang on. You don't get lower than belittling a dead war heroes family. -Fury as Trump mocks Muslim soldier's mother Ghazala Khan- There was fury and he did mock her in that he wasn't seriously asking the question, he was trying to get back at and belittle the family as result of their impactful appearance at the dem convention. Edited by Clownfish (04 Aug 2016 1.45am) You never win point by mocking a dead soldiers parents. The guy is at least a moron and probably a lot worse.
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pefwin Where you have to have an English ... 04 Aug 16 11.26am | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
What are his chances of living long if he becomes President. About half an hour after he says "what does this button do?"
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Stirlingsays 04 Aug 16 12.06pm | |
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Originally posted by pefwin
You never win point by mocking a dead soldiers parents. The guy is at least a moron and probably a lot worse. Mock? Please tell me what he actually said that constitutes him mocking? Just because you or others dislike someone doesn't mean its valid to be unfair and use clearly hyperbolic language. Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Aug 2016 12.07pm)
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Stirlingsays 04 Aug 16 12.12pm | |
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Originally posted by Clownfish
There was fury and he did mock her in that he wasn't seriously asking the question, he was trying to get back at and belittle the family as result of their impactful appearance at the dem convention. Edited by Clownfish (04 Aug 2016 1.45am) That is a ridiculous interpretation of the word 'mock'. In a court of law your assertion would be thrown out. What did he actually say that constitutes the word 'mock'? You are just another person who dislikes Trump so much that you will use extremes in describing events around him. You have more in common with Trump than you realise. Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Aug 2016 12.14pm)
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Oliver Bodega Bay 04 Aug 16 12.34pm | |
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More BBC bias [Link] why go on about this when it's confirmed a month ago no charges are to be filed. Meanwhile Republicans continue to distance themselves from the mocking of a gold star family which was the original newsworthy link in this thread. Reporting on Trump is easy as every time he opens his mouth he puts is foot in it.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 04 Aug 16 1.11pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Mock? Please tell me what he actually said that constitutes him mocking? Just because you or others dislike someone doesn't mean its valid to be unfair and use clearly hyperbolic language. Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Aug 2016 12.07pm) Mock seems a bit generous, given he insinuated she didn't seem to care, or speak, then bringing a bit of anti-muslim propaganda with the 'not allowed to' and using his usual 'that's what some people have said'. I quite agree, there is no need for hyperbole as far as Trump goes, its unnecessary to inflate just how much of a c**t he is. I don't think its fair to compare him to Hitler, for example, because that insults the Nazi Party of the 30s.
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Hrolf The Ganger 04 Aug 16 1.13pm | |
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All this preciousness about Trump and his comments are frankly feeble.Some of it is politically motivated and some of it is just pathetic pandering and self indulgence. Trump will win or lose with the stance the he has adopted and people will have to deal with it. What is sad is that Hillary Clinton could win as the least worst option in some peoples eyes and that will not be a cause for celebration by any stretch of the imagination. It will be a no win scenario but the American political system will likely stop either candidate doing anything crazy or progressive in equal measure. The biggest danger for America and the World does not come from politicians but from those who act outside of democracy.
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Stirlingsays 04 Aug 16 2.14pm | |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Mock seems a bit generous, given he insinuated she didn't seem to care, or speak, then bringing a bit of anti-muslim propaganda with the 'not allowed to' and using his usual 'that's what some people have said'. I quite agree, there is no need for hyperbole as far as Trump goes, its unnecessary to inflate just how much of a c**t he is. I don't think its fair to compare him to Hitler, for example, because that insults the Nazi Party of the 30s. You genuinely surprise me with this Jamie. Emotional and unfair. Trump is most definitely talking of Islamic culture when he refers to the lack of female voices and representation and he was most definitely within his rights to refer to that in relation to how this very 'politically staged' attack was enacted. For you to say what Trump said was 'bit of anti-muslim propaganda'...and lets remember he has a right to defend himself against some quite silly and emotional attacks (hasn't read the constitution). For you to say that....it brings to mind the thought that whatever he would have said would have gained the 'anti-muslim' charge. How much time have you put into learning about the cultures within Islamic countries Jamie? Perhaps your statement about propaganda in reference to Trumps words over women shows your lack of understanding of majority Islamic culture and its attitudes to females in comparison to western ideas and laws.....or perhaps you think that these different culture attitudes are fine and shouldn't be regarded negatively. He didn't suggest she didn't care about her son...that's an unfortunate implication from you. Trump may well be 'anti-Islamic' in terms of how he wants his society to be run....as is the constitution in terms of religion in general....frankly I would say most non-Islamic' people are, but this doesn't mean that anything he said was 'mocking'. This is plainly ridiculous. As for the comparison with Hitler....Is this really you Jamie? Also, just because the National Socialists shared some positive society intents doesn't remove the stain of its many implemented horrors.....And I say implemented horrors Jamie. Horrors far far worst than any Trump has said to get nominated. Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Aug 2016 2.23pm)
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Stirlingsays 04 Aug 16 2.19pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
All this preciousness about Trump and his comments are frankly feeble.Some of it is politically motivated and some of it is just pathetic pandering and self indulgence. Trump will win or lose with the stance the he has adopted and people will have to deal with it. What is sad is that Hillary Clinton could win as the least worst option in some peoples eyes and that will not be a cause for celebration by any stretch of the imagination. It will be a no win scenario but the American political system will likely stop either candidate doing anything crazy or progressive in equal measure. The biggest danger for America and the World does not come from politicians but from those who act outside of democracy. A choice between a lying businessman and a lying lawyer come politician. Both hated within their own parties. Both dodgy. It isn't a great time for American politics.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 04 Aug 16 2.54pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
You genuinely surprise me with this Jamie. Emotional and unfair. Trump is most definitely talking of Islamic culture when he refers to the lack of female voices and representation and he was most definitely within his rights to refer to that in relation to how this very 'politically staged' attack was enacted. Of course but its worth noting that he's pandering to a stereotype that isn't applicable to all of Islam. pakistan had an elected female leader long before the US had even presented a female nominee. Its just low grade ignorance. I expect more of political leaders than to take cheap shots at critics. If you can't handle being the target of flack, and taking it on the chin, you don't belong in politics. Originally posted by Stirlingsays
For you to say what Trump said was 'bit of anti-muslim propaganda'...and lets remember he has a right to defend himself against some quite silly and emotional attacks (hasn't read the constitution). For you to say that....it brings to mind the thought that whatever he would have said would have gained the 'anti-muslim' charge. Which is why a good leader rises above stunts, rather than blundering straight into an emotional p*ssing contest. Its not a defence to denigrate individuals, and their loss. Did you see him trying to explain 'his sacrifices', pitiful. I don't know about you, but he's going to potentially be the President of the US. A leader needs to be above taking everything personally and needing to respond to individual slights. Originally posted by Stirlingsays
How much time have you put into learning about the cultures within Islamic countries Jamie? Not a huge amount. But clearly more than Donald Trump. I do however know some Muslims, and the difference between being a Muslim and Islamic countries. But then I'm also not wanting to lead a country, with geo-political ambitions that are dependent on the middle east. I do know the difference between Muslim, Muslim country and Islamic country - and that even in Islamic countries, such as Iran, there are a multitude of different cultural groups. Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Perhaps your statement about propaganda in reference to Trumps words over women shows your lack of understanding of majority Islamic culture and its attitudes to females in comparison to western ideas and laws.....or perhaps you think that these different culture attitudes are fine and shouldn't be regarded negatively. No, because she explained why she didn't speak, and the overwhelming emotional pain of seeing her dead sons image. Originally posted by Stirlingsays
He didn't suggest she didn't care about her son...that's an unfortunate implication from you. Its implied by his response and manner in which he responds, its dismissive - and based around deflecting the fact he could care less about a US veteran. Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Trump may well be 'anti-Islamic' in terms of how he wants his society to be run....as is the constitution in terms of religion in general....frankly I would say most non-Islamic' people are, but this doesn't mean that anything he said was 'mocking'. This is plainly ridiculous. Anti-Muslim, not anti-Islamic. His policies aren't just about Islam and its adherents, its Muslims in general, irrespective of what they believe or have done. He does quite a line on ISIS, without mentioning the fact that all the heavy lifting against them is being done by Muslims. Originally posted by Stirlingsays
As for the comparison with Hitler....Is this really you Jamie? Also, just because the National Socialists shared some positive society intents doesn't remove the stain of its many implemented horrors.....And I say implemented horrors Jamie. Horrors far far worst than any Trump has said to get nominated. Its a joke, the Nazi party had policies and a number of very well thought out policies that functioned in the recovery of Germany from economic oblivion. Rather than some buzz words, shrugs and mugs to the crowd etc. He's a 'Snake Oil Salesman', and I never thought I'd say this, 'someone who is an insult to politicians'.
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