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Stirlingsays 28 Sep 15 6.26pm
Quote elgrande at 28 Sep 2015 6.21pm Well my Son who is based at Woolwich are advised, not to go out in uniform,or if they do at least 2 together. It's all apart of the left's celebrated diversity that we are all so apparently proud of. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Quote elgrande at 28 Sep 2015 6.21pm

Well my Son who is based at Woolwich are advised, not to go out in uniform,or if they do at least 2 together.

It's all apart of the left's celebrated diversity that we are all so apparently proud of.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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sydtheeagle England 28 Sep 15 6.45pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 28 Sep 2015 6.26pm Quote elgrande at 28 Sep 2015 6.21pm Well my Son who is based at Woolwich are advised, not to go out in uniform,or if they do at least 2 together. It's all apart of the left's celebrated diversity that we are all so apparently proud of. It's actually an all too predictable outcome of the extreme rightward shift that politics has undergone since Thatcher (Conservative and Labour alike have followed basically the same line of direction.) Since the "me first" mentality took hold on the back of a no-mark Austrian economist (Hayek) favoured by a few extreme right wing think-tanks like the Heritage Foundation, society has become ever more fractured and now some of you seem surprised and offended that the disenfranchised are rebelling as a result. Ever notice that we didn't really have these problems (Jihadists, extremists and the like) before the 70s despite the fact that huge numbers of immigrants came before that time? Yeah, there were problems but nothing like todays. Immigration isn't the issue here and shutting the borders isn't the answer; exclusive, divisive politics is. And I suppose we're leaving a corrective shift to Brownian Motion since no one here seems inclined to face the truth as you all seem to believe there's a new house (or whatever) in it for you if nothing changes. Edited by sydtheeagle (28 Sep 2015 6.46pm) Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.
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Quote Stirlingsays at 28 Sep 2015 6.26pm

Quote elgrande at 28 Sep 2015 6.21pm

Well my Son who is based at Woolwich are advised, not to go out in uniform,or if they do at least 2 together.

It's all apart of the left's celebrated diversity that we are all so apparently proud of.

It's actually an all too predictable outcome of the extreme rightward shift that politics has undergone since Thatcher (Conservative and Labour alike have followed basically the same line of direction.) Since the "me first" mentality took hold on the back of a no-mark Austrian economist (Hayek) favoured by a few extreme right wing think-tanks like the Heritage Foundation, society has become ever more fractured and now some of you seem surprised and offended that the disenfranchised are rebelling as a result. Ever notice that we didn't really have these problems (Jihadists, extremists and the like) before the 70s despite the fact that huge numbers of immigrants came before that time? Yeah, there were problems but nothing like todays. Immigration isn't the issue here and shutting the borders isn't the answer; exclusive, divisive politics is. And I suppose we're leaving a corrective shift to Brownian Motion since no one here seems inclined to face the truth as you all seem to believe there's a new house (or whatever) in it for you if nothing changes.

Edited by sydtheeagle (28 Sep 2015 6.46pm)

Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.

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elgrande bedford 28 Sep 15 6.57pm
Quote sydtheeagle at 28 Sep 2015 6.45pm Quote Stirlingsays at 28 Sep 2015 6.26pm Quote elgrande at 28 Sep 2015 6.21pm Well my Son who is based at Woolwich are advised, not to go out in uniform,or if they do at least 2 together. It's all apart of the left's celebrated diversity that we are all so apparently proud of. It's actually an all too predictable outcome of the extreme rightward shift that politics has undergone since Thatcher (Conservative and Labour alike have followed basically the same line of direction.) Since the "me first" mentality took hold on the back of a no-mark Austrian economist (Hayek) favoured by a few extreme right wing think-tanks like the Heritage Foundation, society has become ever more fractured and now some of you seem surprised and offended that the disenfranchised are rebelling as a result. Ever notice that we didn't really have these problems (Jihadists, extremists and the like) before the 70s despite the fact that huge numbers of immigrants came before that time? Yeah, there were problems but nothing like todays. Immigration isn't the issue here and shutting the borders isn't the answer; exclusive, divisive politics is. And I suppose we're leaving a corrective shift to Brownian Motion since no one here seems inclined to face the truth as you all seem to believe there's a new house (or whatever) in it for you if nothing changes. Edited by sydtheeagle (28 Sep 2015 6.46pm) Now you can call me thick (and no doubt you will because you are far superior to me) . But please tell, what the f*** is that post all about. always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.
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Quote sydtheeagle at 28 Sep 2015 6.45pm

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Quote elgrande at 28 Sep 2015 6.21pm

Well my Son who is based at Woolwich are advised, not to go out in uniform,or if they do at least 2 together.

It's all apart of the left's celebrated diversity that we are all so apparently proud of.

It's actually an all too predictable outcome of the extreme rightward shift that politics has undergone since Thatcher (Conservative and Labour alike have followed basically the same line of direction.) Since the "me first" mentality took hold on the back of a no-mark Austrian economist (Hayek) favoured by a few extreme right wing think-tanks like the Heritage Foundation, society has become ever more fractured and now some of you seem surprised and offended that the disenfranchised are rebelling as a result. Ever notice that we didn't really have these problems (Jihadists, extremists and the like) before the 70s despite the fact that huge numbers of immigrants came before that time? Yeah, there were problems but nothing like todays. Immigration isn't the issue here and shutting the borders isn't the answer; exclusive, divisive politics is. And I suppose we're leaving a corrective shift to Brownian Motion since no one here seems inclined to face the truth as you all seem to believe there's a new house (or whatever) in it for you if nothing changes.

Edited by sydtheeagle (28 Sep 2015 6.46pm)

Now you can call me thick (and no doubt you will because you are far superior to me) .
But please tell, what the f*** is that post all about.

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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sydtheeagle England 28 Sep 15 7.07pm
Quote elgrande at 28 Sep 2015 6.57pm Now you can call me thick (and no doubt you will because you are far superior to me) . But please tell, what the f*** is that post all about. I don't really understand. I re-read the post and it seems pretty straightforward to me. What don't you get? Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.
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Quote elgrande at 28 Sep 2015 6.57pm

Now you can call me thick (and no doubt you will because you are far superior to me) .
But please tell, what the f*** is that post all about.

I don't really understand. I re-read the post and it seems pretty straightforward to me. What don't you get?

Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 28 Sep 15 7.16pm
Quote sydtheeagle at 28 Sep 2015 7.07pm Quote elgrande at 28 Sep 2015 6.57pm Now you can call me thick (and no doubt you will because you are far superior to me) . But please tell, what the f*** is that post all about. I don't really understand. I re-read the post and it seems pretty straightforward to me. What don't you get? Home truths.
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Shizzlehurst 28 Sep 15 7.16pm

Quote sydtheeagle at 28 Sep 2015 7.07pm

Quote elgrande at 28 Sep 2015 6.57pm

Now you can call me thick (and no doubt you will because you are far superior to me) .
But please tell, what the f*** is that post all about.

I don't really understand. I re-read the post and it seems pretty straightforward to me. What don't you get?

Home truths.

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susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 28 Sep 15 7.32pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 28 Sep 2015 3.22pm Quote susmik at 28 Sep 2015 3.18pm Quote ASCPFC at 28 Sep 2015 2.05pm Quote jamiemartin721 at 28 Sep 2015 2.02pm Having been out in town, when a number of Squaddies are in town (Aldershot), its not always the case that people in uniform are showing a great deal of respect to the uniform, service and public - and that there can be a reasonable basis on occasion for separating them from the general public. Whilst I know that many people have a rosy eyed romantic view that people who serve in the military are upright valiant symbols of the finest men and women in society, that's not always the experience of the general public, and that even on occasion they can be a real menace in society. I mean squaddies kicking off is unheard of (or people kicking off with Squaddies because they want to prove themselves). I can understand what you mean but in all fairness I doubt the RAF serviceman was going on a pub crawl/civvy bashing when he was injured and in hospital. Not really the RAF thing anyway: more for the Paras, the Chunkies and the Grunts. He was injured on a training exercise which is a bit different to a pub crawl! Yes, but that's not really what I'm concerned with here, I think we can all agree that the actions of the hospital were wrong and insulting. I am on your side with that and totally agree..... Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.
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PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 28 Sep 15 7.32pm

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Quote jamiemartin721 at 28 Sep 2015 2.02pm

Having been out in town, when a number of Squaddies are in town (Aldershot), its not always the case that people in uniform are showing a great deal of respect to the uniform, service and public - and that there can be a reasonable basis on occasion for separating them from the general public.

Whilst I know that many people have a rosy eyed romantic view that people who serve in the military are upright valiant symbols of the finest men and women in society, that's not always the experience of the general public, and that even on occasion they can be a real menace in society.

I mean squaddies kicking off is unheard of (or people kicking off with Squaddies because they want to prove themselves).

I can understand what you mean but in all fairness I doubt the RAF serviceman was going on a pub crawl/civvy bashing when he was injured and in hospital. Not really the RAF thing anyway: more for the Paras, the Chunkies and the Grunts.

He was injured on a training exercise which is a bit different to a pub crawl!

Yes, but that's not really what I'm concerned with here, I think we can all agree that the actions of the hospital were wrong and insulting.

I am on your side with that and totally agree.....

Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

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elgrande bedford 28 Sep 15 8.00pm
Quote nickgusset at 28 Sep 2015 7.16pm Quote sydtheeagle at 28 Sep 2015 7.07pm Quote elgrande at 28 Sep 2015 6.57pm Now you can call me thick (and no doubt you will because you are far superior to me) . But please tell, what the f* is that post all about. I don't really understand. I re-read the post and it seems pretty straightforward to me. What don't you get? Home truths.** Please enlighten me Comrade gusset...Home truths? always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.
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Quote nickgusset at 28 Sep 2015 7.16pm

Quote sydtheeagle at 28 Sep 2015 7.07pm

Quote elgrande at 28 Sep 2015 6.57pm

Now you can call me thick (and no doubt you will because you are far superior to me) .
But please tell, what the f*** is that post all about.

I don't really understand. I re-read the post and it seems pretty straightforward to me. What don't you get?

Home truths.

Please enlighten me Comrade gusset...Home truths?

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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Hrolf The Ganger 28 Sep 15 8.08pm
Quote sydtheeagle at 28 Sep 2015 6.45pm Quote Stirlingsays at 28 Sep 2015 6.26pm Quote elgrande at 28 Sep 2015 6.21pm Well my Son who is based at Woolwich are advised, not to go out in uniform,or if they do at least 2 together. It's all apart of the left's celebrated diversity that we are all so apparently proud of. It's actually an all too predictable outcome of the extreme rightward shift that politics has undergone since Thatcher (Conservative and Labour alike have followed basically the same line of direction.) Since the "me first" mentality took hold on the back of a no-mark Austrian economist (Hayek) favoured by a few extreme right wing think-tanks like the Heritage Foundation, society has become ever more fractured and now some of you seem surprised and offended that the disenfranchised are rebelling as a result. Ever notice that we didn't really have these problems (Jihadists, extremists and the like) before the 70s despite the fact that huge numbers of immigrants came before that time? Yeah, there were problems but nothing like todays. Immigration isn't the issue here and shutting the borders isn't the answer; exclusive, divisive politics is. And I suppose we're leaving a corrective shift to Brownian Motion since no one here seems inclined to face the truth as you all seem to believe there's a new house (or whatever) in it for you if nothing changes. Edited by sydtheeagle (28 Sep 2015 6.46pm) You do make a valid point. Multiculturalism is in large part driven by commerce and economics. Those who stand to benefit the most suffer the least from the division it causes. In short, it is short sighted, selfish greed. What is baffling to me is that the liberal/left defend the results with all the moral fortitude they can muster. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (28 Sep 2015 8.11pm)
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Quote sydtheeagle at 28 Sep 2015 6.45pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 28 Sep 2015 6.26pm

Quote elgrande at 28 Sep 2015 6.21pm

Well my Son who is based at Woolwich are advised, not to go out in uniform,or if they do at least 2 together.

It's all apart of the left's celebrated diversity that we are all so apparently proud of.

Edited by sydtheeagle (28 Sep 2015 6.46pm)

You do make a valid point.

Multiculturalism is in large part driven by commerce and economics. Those who stand to benefit the most suffer the least from the division it causes.

In short, it is short sighted, selfish greed.

What is baffling to me is that the liberal/left defend the results with all the moral fortitude they can muster.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (28 Sep 2015 8.11pm)

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 28 Sep 15 8.38pm
Quote elgrande at 28 Sep 2015 8.00pm Quote nickgusset at 28 Sep 2015 7.16pm Quote sydtheeagle at 28 Sep 2015 7.07pm Quote elgrande at 28 Sep 2015 6.57pm Now you can call me thick (and no doubt you will because you are far superior to me) . But please tell, what the f* is that post all about. I don't really understand. I re-read the post and it seems pretty straightforward to me. What don't you get? Home truths.** Please enlighten me Comrade gusset...Home truths? In that he is correct and you can't see it.
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Shizzlehurst 28 Sep 15 8.38pm

Quote elgrande at 28 Sep 2015 8.00pm

Quote nickgusset at 28 Sep 2015 7.16pm

Quote sydtheeagle at 28 Sep 2015 7.07pm

Quote elgrande at 28 Sep 2015 6.57pm

Now you can call me thick (and no doubt you will because you are far superior to me) .
But please tell, what the f*** is that post all about.

I don't really understand. I re-read the post and it seems pretty straightforward to me. What don't you get?

Home truths.

Please enlighten me Comrade gusset...Home truths?

In that he is correct and you can't see it.

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Catfish Burgess Hill 28 Sep 15 8.51pm
Quote dannyh at 28 Sep 2015 12.06pm Quote sydtheeagle at 26 Sep 2015 6.54pm Quote Hoof Hearted at 26 Sep 2015 6.41pm I think your dad might be ashamed that his son is on a message board defending the utter disrespect of a serving RAF sergeant's right to be treated in hospital wearing his uniform..... But he was treated in his uniform. No one asked him to take it off. No one is saying otherwise. They merely asked him to sit in an area where they could be certain his uniform would not create trouble. That is something entirely different. You are making things up. So why would such a uniform of a british serviceman cause "trouble" and who would cause such trouble ? Why should the Service men have to be moved out of sight to upease the situation, why not tell the offended if you don't like it move where you can't see him, or better still fcuk off completely ? The fact that the service person was asked to move at all (because of potentially causing offence) is an absolute direct f*ing liberty and a reflextion of the apologistic ashamed to be british pussy holes that are now rife in our society. I think somene mentioned how Lee Rigby has got nothing to do with this ? It has everything to do with this, we have become afraid/ashamed of our own troops, flag, and social habbits that they may offend johnny foriegner so we hide away like timid little mice, IN OUR OWN f*ING COUNTRY. Well not me I will wear my uniform with pride, I am Proud to be in the Armed Forces, Proud that I served in Iraq and Afgahnistan, proud of the flag of St George, and proud that I live in a mainly multicutural Britain where most people just want to get along. I welcome anyone to tell me to hide my uniform, I would suggest you are out of Punching range when you do. Edited by dannyh (28 Sep 2015 12.09pm) It's Tommy this and Tommy that and Tommy go away But it's thank you Mr Atkins when the band begins to play. Yes, I am an agent of Satan but my duties are largely ceremonial
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Burgess Hill 28 Sep 15 8.51pm

Quote dannyh at 28 Sep 2015 12.06pm

Quote sydtheeagle at 26 Sep 2015 6.54pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 26 Sep 2015 6.41pm

I think your dad might be ashamed that his son is on a message board defending the utter disrespect of a serving RAF sergeant's right to be treated in hospital wearing his uniform.....

But he was treated in his uniform. No one asked him to take it off. No one is saying otherwise. They merely asked him to sit in an area where they could be certain his uniform would not create trouble. That is something entirely different. You are making things up.

So why would such a uniform of a british serviceman cause "trouble" and who would cause such trouble ?

Why should the Service men have to be moved out of sight to upease the situation, why not tell the offended if you don't like it move where you can't see him, or better still fcuk off completely ?

The fact that the service person was asked to move at all (because of potentially causing offence) is an absolute direct f***ing liberty and a reflextion of the apologistic ashamed to be british pussy holes that are now rife in our society.

I think somene mentioned how Lee Rigby has got nothing to do with this ? It has everything to do with this, we have become afraid/ashamed of our own troops, flag, and social habbits that they may offend johnny foriegner so we hide away like timid little mice, IN OUR OWN f***ING COUNTRY.

Well not me I will wear my uniform with pride, I am Proud to be in the Armed Forces, Proud that I served in Iraq and Afgahnistan, proud of the flag of St George, and proud that I live in a mainly multicutural Britain where most people just want to get along.

I welcome anyone to tell me to hide my uniform, I would suggest you are out of Punching range when you do.

Edited by dannyh (28 Sep 2015 12.09pm)

It's Tommy this and Tommy that and Tommy go away
But it's thank you Mr Atkins when the band begins to play.

Yes, I am an agent of Satan but my duties are largely ceremonial

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Stirlingsays 28 Sep 15 9.10pm
Quote nickgusset at 28 Sep 2015 8.38pm Quote elgrande at 28 Sep 2015 8.00pm Quote nickgusset at 28 Sep 2015 7.16pm Quote sydtheeagle at 28 Sep 2015 7.07pm Quote elgrande at 28 Sep 2015 6.57pm Now you can call me thick (and no doubt you will because you are far superior to me) . But please tell, what the f* is that post all about. I don't really understand. I re-read the post and it seems pretty straightforward to me. What don't you get? Home truths.** Please enlighten me Comrade gusset...Home truths? In that he is correct and you can't see it. There is no 'correct' in this Nick.....This isn't maths. This is all about he kind of country you wish to live in. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Quote elgrande at 28 Sep 2015 6.57pm

Now you can call me thick (and no doubt you will because you are far superior to me) .
But please tell, what the f*** is that post all about.

I don't really understand. I re-read the post and it seems pretty straightforward to me. What don't you get?

Home truths.

Please enlighten me Comrade gusset...Home truths?

In that he is correct and you can't see it.

There is no 'correct' in this Nick.....This isn't maths. This is all about he kind of country you wish to live in.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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sydtheeagle England 28 Sep 15 9.14pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 28 Sep 2015 9.10pm There is no 'correct' in this Nick.....This isn't maths. This is all about he kind of country you wish to live in. If you want to be pedantic, it's not a question of maths but a question of logic. And in so far as it's an inductive argument, you're right. Nevertheless, the rightward shift in politics has created a country that is increasingly unpleasant to live in. The two are not mutually exclusive. Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.
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Quote Stirlingsays at 28 Sep 2015 9.10pm

There is no 'correct' in this Nick.....This isn't maths. This is all about he kind of country you wish to live in.

If you want to be pedantic, it's not a question of maths but a question of logic. And in so far as it's an inductive argument, you're right. Nevertheless, the rightward shift in politics has created a country that is increasingly unpleasant to live in. The two are not mutually exclusive.

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