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Hrolf The Ganger 02 Aug 16 8.35pm | |
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Originally posted by Mr_Gristle
Glad to see you're keeping an eye on your health :-) I'll agree with you on the liberalism agenda being everywhere. However, Liberalism (let's call it Neo-Liberalism these days) is the agenda of corporate consumerism and "rights for all" as long as those rights contribute to big business profits. There is a lot of truth in that me thinks.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 03 Aug 16 9.46am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I'm not sure he is alone in that but we shouldn't underestimate the stupidity of the electorate in believing the integrity of politicians. In one sense, we have fought for the right to be stupid and we are taking full advantage of it. Idiocracy is alive and well but I do not believe that idiocy rests solely with supporters of Donald Trump. I think you're on the money there. Its just screamingly obvious with Trump. I think the same criticism can be levelled at anyone who's wedded to a ideological view point, irrespective of critical appraisal. Whilst I am a socialist, I wouldn't ascribe my views of socialism as in line with party views.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 03 Aug 16 9.51am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Surely no one could accuse you of that. Why that would be tantamount to calling me sarcastic. So ethics are generally brought about by a consensus of moral and practical guidelines. With liberalism etc, I just think that the language we use is just not nuanced enough to separate out the subtle differences between individual opinion. Clearly, people don't all think the same way but often align themselves to others who have similar views. They are often happy to be labeled in a particular way because of a tribal inclination. This is where football websites come in, as you can work out complex philosophical arguments, prior to actually being put into a position where you make a decision. Generally I think the issue is probably more a case that very few people actually study philosophy to any level, and as such have little regard for people who do (as they annoy them).
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Hrolf The Ganger 03 Aug 16 11.20am | |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
This is where football websites come in, as you can work out complex philosophical arguments, prior to actually being put into a position where you make a decision. Generally I think the issue is probably more a case that very few people actually study philosophy to any level, and as such have little regard for people who do (as they annoy them).
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Lyons550 Shirley 03 Aug 16 1.10pm | |
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Having watched CNN for the last few days whilst in the US it's not just the BBC putting the boot in...
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jamiemartin721 Reading 03 Aug 16 1.28pm | |
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Originally posted by Lyons550
Having watched CNN for the last few days whilst in the US it's not just the BBC putting the boot in... It seems that even his own party are breaking from him. Alienating life long Republican career politicians, is quite an impressive feat.
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Stirlingsays 03 Aug 16 1.53pm | |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
It seems that even his own party are breaking from him. Alienating life long Republican career politicians, is quite an impressive feat. Still going to win though.....His apolitically correct sometimes silly comments get massively focused upon and demonised by the lefty press and his republican enemies.....But here's the reality: once those TV debates come on Trump will take over in the polls....Clinton just doesn't have that x factor like her husband does. You read it here....many on the left are in denial but it's about effective personal advertising and Trump has it and Clinton doesn't have it enough to extend out beyond the base. When Sanders lost, that's when the Democrats lost the election.
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steeleye20 Croydon 03 Aug 16 2.10pm | |
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What are his chances of living long if he becomes President.
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Hrolf The Ganger 03 Aug 16 2.27pm | |
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Lots of people were saying that about Obama. Democracy must prevail. Although based on previous US elections there might be some doubt about the validity of the result.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 03 Aug 16 3.47pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
What are his chances of living long if he becomes President. I think at the age of 70, he's already in a area where the stress and demands of being President and CoC are more of a threat to his health than assassination. That's a very heavy load to carry.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 03 Aug 16 3.50pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Lots of people were saying that about Obama. Democracy must prevail. Although based on previous US elections there might be some doubt about the validity of the result. I don't think he'll win it. He even seems to be alienating the Republican party now and dividing them. Realistically, I think the Democrats will pick up most of the swing votes providing Saunders supporters don't protest vote, and the democratic nominee can avoid any catastrophic scandals.
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EaglesEaglesEagles 03 Aug 16 10.00pm | |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
I don't think he'll win it. He even seems to be alienating the Republican party now and dividing them. Realistically, I think the Democrats will pick up most of the swing votes providing Saunders supporters don't protest vote, and the democratic nominee can avoid any catastrophic scandals. I agree with this statement. Some of it may come down to media timing. Early August is not weeks away from the actual election.
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