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Who's going to run for the Tory leadership?
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 blackpalacefan  30 Jun 16 8.53pm |
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As I said the other day I think Boris thought remain would win by 2-3% and he'd then be well positioned to play man of the people in a stable economy and ready to be the next prime minister. When the result came in let's face it the man as good as went awol. When he did appear the enthusiasm was gone, he looked like he was out of his depth. Suddenly it was all backtracking over freedom of movement and 'i didnt mean this i meant that, i was tired'. He realised what's at stake here, his proimity to it and how absurd it would look if he can't get a good Brexit deal. Gove stepping up proved to be an ideal way to get out. It's pitiful that he didn't stick with his convictions since he basically headed the leave campaign. Unfortunately for him, if it all goes to pot people will remember the role he played.
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Y Ddraig Goch  In The Crowd 30 Jun 16 8.58pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
I have been an active member of the 'Conservative Party' for many years, serving on local branch committees, attending party conferences and functions,partaking in policy forums and campaigning in local and General Elections with local candidates and MPs etc etc. I have met many ministers over the years and party leaders. I could go on and on... I am genuinely very surprised at today's developments and I shall be shortly going out to discuss these matters with fellow Conservatives over a pint or two ! Edited by Willo (30 Jun 2016 8.19pm) Nooooooo you? Really? Who'd have thought it?
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| blackpalacefan 30 Jun 16 9.03pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
I have been an active member of the 'Conservative Party' for many years, serving on local branch committees, attending party conferences and functions,partaking in policy forums and campaigning in local and General Elections with local candidates and MPs etc etc. I have met many ministers over the years and party leaders. I could go on and on... I am genuinely very surprised at today's developments and I shall be shortly going out to discuss these matters with fellow Conservatives over a pint or two ! Edited by Willo (30 Jun 2016 8.19pm) 'I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in.... conservative leadership contests.'
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glazedallover  Allier 30 Jun 16 9.10pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
I have been an active member of the 'Conservative Party' for many years, serving on local branch committees, attending party conferences and functions,partaking in policy forums and campaigning in local and General Elections with local candidates and MPs etc etc. I have met many ministers over the years and party leaders. I could go on and on... I am genuinely very surprised at today's developments and I shall be shortly going out to discuss these matters with fellow Conservatives over a pint or two ! Edited by Willo (30 Jun 2016 8.19pm) I read all that on your wiki page.....
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| silvertop Portishead 30 Jun 16 9.30pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
I have been an active member of the 'Conservative Party' for many years, serving on local branch committees, attending party conferences and functions,partaking in policy forums and campaigning in local and General Elections with local candidates and MPs etc etc. I have met many ministers over the years and party leaders. I could go on and on... I am genuinely very surprised at today's developments and I shall be shortly going out to discuss these matters with fellow Conservatives over a pint or two ! Edited by Willo (30 Jun 2016 8.19pm) Willo, your politics are not pleasant but I want to give you a fair crack of the whip rather than deserved mockery. Thus, who do you think will be the best candidate? That is, address the title to this thread rather than dribble something banal about your dreary suburban existence. I'll start it off. I think gove is one of those somewhere along the autism spectrum geniuses who are brilliant but not likeable or electable. I suspect he is putting his name down with no real belief he has a chance; but knowing that he will fight hard, bow out at the right time, and hitch his wagon to the brightest rising star knowing his skill is one of behind the throne control. His attack on BJ seems contrived to underline the potential support he is going to throw behind the eventual front runner. What do you think?
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 01 Jul 16 12.20am |
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Originally posted by silvertop
Willo, your politics are not pleasant but I want to give you a fair crack of the whip rather than deserved mockery. Thus, who do you think will be the best candidate? That is, address the title to this thread rather than dribble something banal about your dreary suburban existence. I'll start it off. I think gove is one of those somewhere along the autism spectrum geniuses who are brilliant but not likeable or electable. I suspect he is putting his name down with no real belief he has a chance; but knowing that he will fight hard, bow out at the right time, and hitch his wagon to the brightest rising star knowing his skill is one of behind the throne control. His attack on BJ seems contrived to underline the potential support he is going to throw behind the eventual front runner. What do you think? Given your risible comment, I am not minded to provide you with an insight into my thinking.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 01 Jul 16 12.23am |
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Originally posted by Sportyteacher
You mention "Teaching profession". Very apt as I would say that in terms of your comment "Needs to do better".
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| lankygit Lincoln 01 Jul 16 1.40am |
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Originally posted by Willo
I have been an active member of the 'Conservative Party' for many years, serving on local branch committees, attending party conferences and functions,partaking in policy forums and campaigning in local and General Elections with local candidates and MPs etc etc. I have met many ministers over the years and party leaders. I could go on and on... I am genuinely very surprised at today's developments and I shall be shortly going out to discuss these matters with fellow Conservatives over a pint or two ! Edited by Willo (30 Jun 2016 8.19pm) Hope you had a good evening with your pals,Willo. Given what you have written there, I`d say that makes you more informed than most on here re. the true mechanics of the Conservative Party. So, I`d like to ask a couple (or four for the pedantic) of questions. 1. Who would you like to be the next Conservative leader, and why? I`m genuinely interested in knowing. Edited by lankygit (01 Jul 2016 1.41am)
Is this a five minute argument, or the full half hour? [Link] |
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| Midlands Eagle 01 Jul 16 6.54am |
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Originally posted by Willo
Given your risible comment, I am not minded to provide you with an insight into my thinking. Thank goodness for that Incidentally Trolley was fond of the word "risible" too and used it frequently
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Kermit8  Hevon 01 Jul 16 7.29am |
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Willo has helped take down Cameron and now also Boris by voting 'out' and he has now enabled the next PM - a remainer in May - to take the reins. I like him. A great Tory. Ruthless.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 01 Jul 16 8.17am |
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Ken Clark just said Gove should step down from the race as he is untrustworthy. Edit. Now he said he should be disqualified. Edited by nickgusset (01 Jul 2016 8.18am)
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| Midlands Eagle 01 Jul 16 8.25am |
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Originally posted by blackpalacefan
It's pitiful that he didn't stick with his convictions since he basically headed the leave campaign. Unfortunately for him, if it all goes to pot people will remember the role he played. Whilst Gove may have been responsible for Boris not standing in the forthcoming leadership campaign the most powerful anti Boris speech came from Michael Heseltine last night who accused him of giving credibility to Nigel Farage but was too cowardly to see it through and having lead his troops into battle he abandoned them at the first sound of gunfire.
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