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Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 16 Mar 16 1.20pm | |
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I am not dismissing stress per se. I am however dismissing a lot of people's claims that they are stressed due to their line of work. Too many people need a large dose of suck it up. That way, those that really do need help, can have the necessary resources.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 16 Mar 16 1.52pm | |
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
I am not dismissing stress per se. I am however dismissing a lot of people's claims that they are stressed due to their line of work. Too many people need a large dose of suck it up. That way, those that really do need help, can have the necessary resources. Problem of stress is that you can't suck it up, its not physically possible, as stress is a product of maladaptation of the human endocrine system. We respond to all stressors, with roughly the same endocrine system that humans had in primal times. I wouldn't say explicitly that peoples jobs are necessarily the cause, but that they're a major contributory factor, along with stresses induced from other factors of life (bills, family, relationships etc). To all of these things, we can only react in a primal manner, which is really is only functional for dealing with short term threats to life (essentially we sacrifice long term benefit for short term survival). Interestingly work isn't the biggest cause of stress in peoples lives, but its the most consistent and persistent one. As a society, we tend to only take any intervention once stress manifests as a serious problem for an individual, and then typically medicate them - Rather than deal with the problem, we deal with the symptoms. Mental health provision is massively underfunded and patchy in the UK, without adding stress related disorders into the mix. Not to mention that long term stress results in a lot more 'lost work days' than caused by stress related sickness. A good example can be seen in how stress reduces the immune response effectiveness, resulting in a high susceptibility to communicable illnesses (which themselves cause stress). It is realistically, one of the most prevalent health problem in the UK, and likely one of the most preventable.
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Mr_Gristle In the land of Whelk Eaters 16 Mar 16 4.10pm | |
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Did Osbourne commit to turning all state schools into academies? So it's the government's wish to turn all school children into revenue streams for financially deregulated education provision businesses? F**k me. The state has a responsibility to educate its children, not turn them into commodities. It's beyond shameful and something that should transcend partisan political posturing. Prisoners have been turned into private revenue generators, now kids......hospital patients will be next. Edited by Mr_Gristle (16 Mar 2016 4.10pm)
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jamiemartin721 Reading 17 Mar 16 10.39am | |
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Originally posted by Mr_Gristle
Did Osbourne commit to turning all state schools into academies? So it's the government's wish to turn all school children into revenue streams for financially deregulated education provision businesses? F**k me. The state has a responsibility to educate its children, not turn them into commodities. It's beyond shameful and something that should transcend partisan political posturing. Prisoners have been turned into private revenue generators, now kids......hospital patients will be next. Edited by Mr_Gristle (16 Mar 2016 4.10pm) The corporate state in action. Government shirks its responsibility and in doing so distances itself from the consequences of its requirement to represent the people. New Labour were no better. If the state isn't a means of provision of essential needs of society, then why have the government in the first place.
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Sportyteacher London 20 Mar 16 7.04pm | |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
The corporate state in action. Government shirks its responsibility and in doing so distances itself from the consequences of its requirement to represent the people. New Labour were no better. If the state isn't a means of provision of essential needs of society, then why have the government in the first place. Both x 2 previous comments are spot on! It was New Labour that started to do away with LEAs and yet in their 2015 Manifesto, the party wanted to bring in...wait for it...independent local education authorities.
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johnfirewall 28 Mar 16 2.56pm | |
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Nick must be on holiday Teachers are all turning to booze and anti-depressants say the unions. The stats say it all, I mean 43% of teachers went to the doctors in the last year. Although I'd imagine most people have been to the doctors in the last year, and these stories have been going on for years.
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susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 28 Mar 16 4.03pm | |
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Quite a few teachers are on the "sick list" because they have been given low results or picked up on their government teachers tests... at my daughters school where she teaches there are half the teachers on leave with stress due to having been told to buck their ideas up so to speak, leaving all the other good teachers to carry on regardless. Under Labour teachers had it good and the crap ones just carried on doing a bad job. you only have to look at the kind or "educated kids" that Labour let loose on the job market hence the reason that so many where/are unemployed. Bosses' take one look at their applications and it goes in the bin. Half cannot read or write their own names let alone mix with other workers. It is a sad state of affairs and I feel sorry for the kids as they did not get a good education or a fair crack of the whip. Labour has a lot to answer for and I think Jeremy has made things even worse.
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johnfirewall 28 Mar 16 8.52pm | |
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Originally posted by susmik
They must be relishing the academy news in the budget, providing something else to attack the government over. If anything I'd say teachers have the least to complain about in the entire public sector. Edited by johnfirewall (28 Mar 2016 9.09pm)
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-TUX- Alphabettispaghetti 28 Mar 16 9.16pm | |
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The headline of this thread should be enough to make everyone here weep.
Time to move forward together. |
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on me shed son Krakow 28 Mar 16 9.57pm | |
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Originally posted by -TUX-
The headline of this thread should be enough to make everyone here weep.
As long as the education system's run by politicians unfortunately it won't.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 28 Mar 16 10.08pm | |
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Originally posted by johnfirewall
They must be relishing the academy news in the budget, providing something else to attack the government over. If anything I'd say teachers have the least to complain about in the entire public sector. Edited by johnfirewall (28 Mar 2016 9.09pm)
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johnfirewall 29 Mar 16 10.50am | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
And your experience in this field is? Indirect through friends and family who aren't union puppets and just do their jobs. I've only ever seen the 'crisis' illustrated by way of lefty blogs and union propaganda so maybe it'd be more pertinent to give your personal experiences.
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