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Badger11 Beckenham 23 Jan 20 9.54am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays They needed people like yourself decades ago Badger....perhaps they wouldn't be in their present mess. They are a huge social liberal echo chamber who gate keep much of reality from spoiling their worldviews.....all on the public purse. They can't understand why her show failed....I and many could have told them after the first show.....yet these jokers are on god knows how much dosh. Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Jan 2020 9.15am) Hmm refusal to accept the referendum result, refusal to accept that Corbyn lost, refusal to accept that a program is not popular, I think I'm detecting a pattern... One more point
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Beckenham 23 Jan 20 9.54am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

They needed people like yourself decades ago Badger....perhaps they wouldn't be in their present mess.

They are a huge social liberal echo chamber who gate keep much of reality from spoiling their worldviews.....all on the public purse.

They can't understand why her show failed....I and many could have told them after the first show.....yet these jokers are on god knows how much dosh.

Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Jan 2020 9.15am)

Hmm refusal to accept the referendum result, refusal to accept that Corbyn lost, refusal to accept that a program is not popular, I think I'm detecting a pattern...

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 23 Jan 20 10.54am
Originally posted by Badger11 Victoria Derbyshire Show Cancelled [Link] Yesterday there was the usual wailing and gnashing of teeth by the luvvies amid all sorts of accusations and conspiracy theories (cancelled to pay for the equality payouts etc.) The BBC put a spin on why (Online viewing was good) but the real reason was rather obvious nobody was watching it. For once I applaud the BBC, making popular programs is tricky but unlike commercial telly the BBC is very reluctant to cancel shows it has put a lot of investment into (see Doctor Who). Well for once common-sense has prevailed, I have never watched it so can't comment on it's quality but apparently it was an expensive show with low ratings. Welcome to the real world BBC I hope this is the start of a more realistic approach to television viewing. If it aint being watched can it. What's your answer? Only make shows that lots of people want to watch? Like sport, game shows and reality TV? If nobody at all watches then cancelling is a no brainer but if it is providing important information then the trick has to be to get more people to watch it. Surely here, of all places, the argument that the only one that matters is the commercial one, isn't going to be made. Is it? For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 23 Jan 20 10.54am

Originally posted by Badger11

Victoria Derbyshire Show Cancelled

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Yesterday there was the usual wailing and gnashing of teeth by the luvvies amid all sorts of accusations and conspiracy theories (cancelled to pay for the equality payouts etc.)

The BBC put a spin on why (Online viewing was good) but the real reason was rather obvious nobody was watching it. For once I applaud the BBC, making popular programs is tricky but unlike commercial telly the BBC is very reluctant to cancel shows it has put a lot of investment into (see Doctor Who).

Well for once common-sense has prevailed, I have never watched it so can't comment on it's quality but apparently it was an expensive show with low ratings.

Welcome to the real world BBC I hope this is the start of a more realistic approach to television viewing. If it aint being watched can it.

What's your answer?

Only make shows that lots of people want to watch?

Like sport, game shows and reality TV?

If nobody at all watches then cancelling is a no brainer but if it is providing important information then the trick has to be to get more people to watch it.

Surely here, of all places, the argument that the only one that matters is the commercial one, isn't going to be made. Is it?

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Teddy Eagle 23 Jan 20 11.45am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle What's your answer? Only make shows that lots of people want to watch? Like sport, game shows and reality TV? If nobody at all watches then cancelling is a no brainer but if it is providing important information then the trick has to be to get more people to watch it. Surely here, of all places, the argument that the only one that matters is the commercial one, isn't going to be made. Is it? There isn’t a shortage of current affairs programmes. One gets cancelled; another one starts. Maybe she’s been a victim of the gender pay argument. The BBC have to make some savings to pay everyone the same.
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23 Jan 20 11.45am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

What's your answer?

Only make shows that lots of people want to watch?

Like sport, game shows and reality TV?

If nobody at all watches then cancelling is a no brainer but if it is providing important information then the trick has to be to get more people to watch it.

Surely here, of all places, the argument that the only one that matters is the commercial one, isn't going to be made. Is it?

There isn’t a shortage of current affairs programmes. One gets cancelled; another one starts.
Maybe she’s been a victim of the gender pay argument. The BBC have to make some savings to pay everyone the same.

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Hrolf The Ganger 23 Jan 20 12.12pm
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle I disagree with shelving it as all they need to do is to find someone to produce it that actually knows what the customers want and produce it accordingly They have turned it from a family show, albeit slightly obsessed with gay people, to a show populated mostly by minorities with very flimsy social and environmental messages. If you are not from a minority then you have to speak with a strong local accent. They even made The Master an Asian. Great for PC but no one will watch it. Oh, and it's crap.
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23 Jan 20 12.12pm

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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I disagree with shelving it as all they need to do is to find someone to produce it that actually knows what the customers want and produce it accordingly

They have turned it from a family show, albeit slightly obsessed with gay people, to a show populated mostly by minorities with very flimsy social and environmental messages. If you are not from a minority then you have to speak with a strong local accent.
They even made The Master an Asian.

Great for PC but no one will watch it.

Oh, and it's crap.

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Midlands Eagle 23 Jan 20 1.01pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Oh, and it's crap. It is for the reasons that you stated and also because it seems that no-one can write a decent storyline any more. It's full of meaningless technobabble and the sonic screwdriver which started out as the name suggests is now the Dr Who equivalent of Harry Potter's wand as it can do anything and everything - especially when the scriptwriters have run out of ideas
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23 Jan 20 1.01pm

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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Oh, and it's crap.

It is for the reasons that you stated and also because it seems that no-one can write a decent storyline any more.

It's full of meaningless technobabble and the sonic screwdriver which started out as the name suggests is now the Dr Who equivalent of Harry Potter's wand as it can do anything and everything - especially when the scriptwriters have run out of ideas

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Stirlingsays 23 Jan 20 1.50pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger They have turned it from a family show, albeit slightly obsessed with gay people, to a show populated mostly by minorities with very flimsy social and environmental messages. If you are not from a minority then you have to speak with a strong local accent. They even made The Master an Asian. Great for PC but no one will watch it. Oh, and it's crap. The next Dr Who needs to be an Nigerian. Then they can call him/her Dr Who Dat. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

23 Jan 20 1.50pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Great for PC but no one will watch it.

Oh, and it's crap.

The next Dr Who needs to be an Nigerian.

Then they can call him/her Dr Who Dat.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Badger11 Beckenham 23 Jan 20 1.54pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays The next Dr Who needs to be an Nigerian. Then they can call him/her Dr Who Dat. you'll be telling the Dan Dare joke next. One more point
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Badger11

Beckenham 23 Jan 20 1.54pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The next Dr Who needs to be an Nigerian.

Then they can call him/her Dr Who Dat.

you'll be telling the Dan Dare joke next.

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Hrolf The Ganger 23 Jan 20 2.20pm
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle It is for the reasons that you stated and also because it seems that no-one can write a decent storyline any more. It's full of meaningless technobabble and the sonic screwdriver which started out as the name suggests is now the Dr Who equivalent of Harry Potter's wand as it can do anything and everything - especially when the scriptwriters have run out of ideas The reboot of Dr Who has always been a bit simple minded and throw away, even given that it is aimed mainly at kids, but they tried to make up for it by throwing in the odd profound moment. Essentially it has always been twaddle. At least in the Pertwee era, they tried to give it the appearance of being 'scientific'. The latest incarnation is so dumbed down that it is genuinely painful to watch. The last one I had to fast forward. It amazes me that it is popular in the US because they have been making vastly superior Sci Fi for the masses for years.
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Hrolf The Ganger

23 Jan 20 2.20pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

It is for the reasons that you stated and also because it seems that no-one can write a decent storyline any more.

It's full of meaningless technobabble and the sonic screwdriver which started out as the name suggests is now the Dr Who equivalent of Harry Potter's wand as it can do anything and everything - especially when the scriptwriters have run out of ideas

The reboot of Dr Who has always been a bit simple minded and throw away, even given that it is aimed mainly at kids, but they tried to make up for it by throwing in the odd profound moment. Essentially it has always been twaddle. At least in the Pertwee era, they tried to give it the appearance of being 'scientific'.

The latest incarnation is so dumbed down that it is genuinely painful to watch. The last one I had to fast forward.
It amazes me that it is popular in the US because they have been making vastly superior Sci Fi for the masses for years.

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Hrolf The Ganger 23 Jan 20 2.25pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays The next Dr Who needs to be an Nigerian. Then they can call him/her Dr Who Dat. Riding around the cosmos haggling for second hand cars and asking you to send money to fix the Tardis so he can come to your planet and save you from alien invasion. Could work.
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Hrolf The Ganger

23 Jan 20 2.25pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The next Dr Who needs to be an Nigerian.

Then they can call him/her Dr Who Dat.

Riding around the cosmos haggling for second hand cars and asking you to send money to fix the Tardis so he can come to your planet and save you from alien invasion.

Could work.

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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 24 Jan 20 2.51am
"Giant koala sand art captures bushfire emotions" [Link] WTF is "bushfire emotions" ? it's a fcking picture in the sand that many teenagers do. Is this what professional journalism does to invent something in the news ? I disengage, I turn the page.
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"Giant koala sand art captures bushfire emotions"
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WTF is "bushfire emotions" ?

it's a fcking picture in the sand that many teenagers do. Is this what professional journalism does to invent something in the news ?

I disengage, I turn the page.

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Badger11 Beckenham 24 Jan 20 8.19am
The luvvies are still in meltdown over the cancellation of Victoria Derbyshire show. [Link] The gist of their complaints seem to be that you can't cancel a show that is led by an award winning journalist and is staff mainly by women. After blaming the BBC naturally the Tories come in for some stick as really it's all their fault. I simply do not get why the BBC and their staff have gone into meltdown over this. The show had poor rating and equivalent shows on other channels are pulling 4/5 times their numbers. This is the not death of current affairs at the beeb they have plenty of other shows on TV, a 24 hour current affairs channel, radio and the web. The reason this show was cancelled was simple it was very expensive to make and no one was watching it. That doesn't mean that a current affairs show cannot work or that Victoria Derbyshire cannot host a successful TV just that this format in this time slot over 5 years has not worked. The makers of the show have had 5 years to get it right and they haven't, on commercial TV they would have cancelled it after one season or even sooner. Cancelling this show is not an attack on the BBC or even women at the BBC it is what it is. These people need to grow up telly is a ruthless business and even at the taxpayer funded BBC you have to justify costs versus viewer numbers. The BBC staff still seem to think that they decicde what is good for the public to watch whether the public knows it or not. Hopefully this is a wake up call the public through streaming and online decide what they want to watch and when. One more point
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Beckenham 24 Jan 20 8.19am

The luvvies are still in meltdown over the cancellation of Victoria Derbyshire show.

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The gist of their complaints seem to be that you can't cancel a show that is led by an award winning journalist and is staff mainly by women. After blaming the BBC naturally the Tories come in for some stick as really it's all their fault.

I simply do not get why the BBC and their staff have gone into meltdown over this. The show had poor rating and equivalent shows on other channels are pulling 4/5 times their numbers.

This is the not death of current affairs at the beeb they have plenty of other shows on TV, a 24 hour current affairs channel, radio and the web. The reason this show was cancelled was simple it was very expensive to make and no one was watching it.

That doesn't mean that a current affairs show cannot work or that Victoria Derbyshire cannot host a successful TV just that this format in this time slot over 5 years has not worked.

The makers of the show have had 5 years to get it right and they haven't, on commercial TV they would have cancelled it after one season or even sooner.

Cancelling this show is not an attack on the BBC or even women at the BBC it is what it is. These people need to grow up telly is a ruthless business and even at the taxpayer funded BBC you have to justify costs versus viewer numbers.

The BBC staff still seem to think that they decicde what is good for the public to watch whether the public knows it or not. Hopefully this is a wake up call the public through streaming and online decide what they want to watch and when.

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PalazioVecchio south pole 24 Jan 20 2.39pm
Originally posted by DanH This may come has a horrific shock to you, but "brown" people and women do write poetry too. Hey, some of it may even be worth studying! This forum of angry men shouting at clouds really is racing itself to the bottom. give our regards to the BBS there darling. Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford
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