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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 11 Feb 17 5.37am

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

Stiff upper lip
Fighting the Hun
Always play with a straight bat
Fck the Frenchies
Marquess of Queensbury rules.
Expand the Empire
Opening doors for ladeeez.
Public Schools
oiks and riff-raff
jobs for the boys
entrenched discrimination in The Establishment
strikes
Pioneering engineering like Concorde, the Spitfire, the Austin Princess and stuff,...
losing at sport, quite a lot
Being bloody-minded and resistant to decimalisation.

Taking the piss out of Europe and thee French especially, and still standing shoulder to shoulder with them in a crisis

Fair play and a cynical distrust of politicians and leaders.

Warm beer, gin and tonic, relaxed recalcitrance and being polite even in the face of overwhelming adversity

Being a resolute defender of democracy, fair values and the underdogs

 


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the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 11 Feb 17 7.35am Send a Private Message to the silurian Add the silurian as a friend

Originally posted by europalace

There are nearly 3 million British immigrants living in other EU countries.

Most of which don't go to the country expecting free housing and money do they? They are all contributing in some way or other to the country they choose to live in. I chose to live in France and we pay our way, no benefits given or expected.

 

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europalace Flag Europe 11 Feb 17 9.02am Send a Private Message to europalace Add europalace as a friend

Originally posted by the silurian

Most of which don't go to the country expecting free housing and money do they? They are all contributing in some way or other to the country they choose to live in. I chose to live in France and we pay our way, no benefits given or expected.


So, because you say you pay your way, how do you know that the thousands of other British in France are also doing so? How do you know that 'most' of those coming to the UK from other EU countries are 'expecting free housing and money'? Of course you don't know that or have any facts to prove so. You are a very good example of those in the UK that have been hoodwinked and conned by the media and bent politicians, who don't care about you whatsoever.

Most EU nationals are younger generation and skilled. They don't need free housing as they have employment, earning money and paying tax. There are far more British citizens living off benefits including social housing.

Many of the British living in other EU countries, particularly in Spain and France are older generation and use the (excellent) health services of these countries heavily and freely. Maybe they should be returned to the UK and loaded onto the already dire and collapsing NHS?

You seem to be typical of the attitude in the UK that anyone who comes and lives in the UK does so only to claim benefits and get free housing while the British moving in the opposite direction are helping all of the other economies. Well, from my experience of actually living for years in several other EU countries as well as spending a good piece of my life in the UK, the opposite is true. The work ethic in most EU countries is light years ahead of anything I experienced in the UK when I used to live there. It's one of the main reasons we moved our business abroad.

Why is it the people coming to the UK are called immigrants while the British abroad are called 'expats'? Why are the British never known as immigrants ? They are of course immigrants and should accept being so.

Edited by europalace (11 Feb 2017 11.27am)

 

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the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 11 Feb 17 9.09am Send a Private Message to the silurian Add the silurian as a friend

Originally posted by europalace

Firstly, most EU nationals are younger generation and skilled. They don't need free housing as they have employment, earning money and paying tax. There are far more British citizens living off benefits including social housing.

Secondly, many of the British living in other EU countries, particularly in Spain and France are older generation and use the (excellent) health services of these countries heavily and freely. Maybe they should be returned to the UK and loaded onto the already dire and collapsing NHS?

You seem to be typical of the attitude in the UK that anyone who comes and lives in the UK does so only to claim benefits and get free housing while The British moving in the opposite direction are helping all of the other economies. Well, from my experience of actually living for years in several other EU countries as well as spending a good piece of my life in the UK, the opposite is true.

Why is it the people coming to the UK are called immigrants while the British abroad are called 'expats'? Why are the British never known as immigrants ? They are of course immigrants and should accept being so.

Ahhhh! Actually the French DO call us immigrants ! We ARE helping the French economy, albeit in a very small way as we run a company here and pay tax here..Maybe we do use the health system here BUT we pay up front for it! Maybe we should come back and use the NHS, god knows we paid into for 50 years!
Don't know where you lived but obviously not in France, they give you nothing unless you pay for it

Anyway enough of this, you have your views I have mine.
Goodbye!

 

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Midlands Eagle Flag 11 Feb 17 9.18am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by europalace

Most EU nationals are younger generation and skilled. They don't need free housing as they have employment, earning money and paying tax. There are far more British citizens living off benefits including social housing.

Where do you get your ideas from as unemployment is significantly higher in many European countries than it is in the UK with shockingly high unemployment levels of 23% in Greece and 20% in Spain for starters

 

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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 11 Feb 17 9.28am Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Taking the piss out of Europe and thee French especially, and still standing shoulder to shoulder with them in a crisis

Fair play and a cynical distrust of politicians and leaders.

Warm beer, gin and tonic, relaxed recalcitrance and being polite even in the face of overwhelming adversity

Being a resolute defender of democracy, fair values and the underdogs

Perfidious Albion unrivalled in treachery


 

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matt_himself Flag Matataland 11 Feb 17 9.51am Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

Originally posted by DanH


I know this is very much tongue in cheek but it's depressing how people that think like this are now in positions of power.

Do you know what's interesting, there is only one leader of a major party who spent most of their childhood being educated at an independent school.

Can you guess which one it was?

 


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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 11 Feb 17 10.22am Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by matt_himself

Do you know what's interesting, there is only one leader of a major party who spent most of their childhood being educated at an independent school.

Can you guess which one it was?

off-topic as ever

 

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Hoof Hearted 11 Feb 17 11.23am

Originally posted by steeleye20

off-topic as ever

You are not a moderator nor even a topic-monitor.

I thought Matt's comment was relevant to the discussion.

STOP TRYING TO GAG PEOPLE WHEN THEY ARE MAKING VALUED OBSERVATIONS!

 

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europalace Flag Europe 11 Feb 17 11.29am Send a Private Message to europalace Add europalace as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Where do you get your ideas from as unemployment is significantly higher in many European countries than it is in the UK with shockingly high unemployment levels of 23% in Greece and 20% in Spain for starters

The skilled people in some European countries have moved to the UK because they speak very good English and have the qualifications and experience that is in demand.

 

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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 11 Feb 17 11.29am Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

You are not a moderator nor even a topic-monitor.

I thought Matt's comment was relevant to the discussion.

STOP TRYING TO GAG PEOPLE WHEN THEY ARE MAKING VALUED OBSERVATIONS!

There is a thread for Jeremy Corbyn its only fair to other posters that you do not use this thread as a diversion from the subject of 'British values'.

 

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Hoof Hearted 11 Feb 17 11.38am

Originally posted by steeleye20

There is a thread for Jeremy Corbyn its only fair to other posters that you do not use this thread as a diversion from the subject of 'British values'.

You can do one.

If a moderator wants to stop me or Matt cross referencing valid points from another thread then so be it.

Who appointed you as the sole arbiter of what does and doesn't qualify to post on this thread then?

Nothing seems to stop you having a pop at Theresa May on any thread if the mood takes you......Hypocrite20

 

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