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  Hrolf The Ganger  12 Jan 17 1.24pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
All 17 US intelligence agencies, not just the CIA. I don't trust the motivations of any of these people. The "establishment" don't want Trump as President. They would stop at nothing to oust him if they wanted to. Trump will be nowhere near the first politician to be accused of or caught in compromising situations. Kennedy was often in one allegedly. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (12 Jan 2017 1.25pm) Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (12 Jan 2017 1.41pm)
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Kermit8  Hevon 12 Jan 17 1.32pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I don't trust the motivations of any of these people. The "establishment" don't want Trump as President. They would stop at nothing to oust him if they wanted to. Trump will be nowhere near the first politician to be accused of or caught in compromising situations. Kennedy was often in one allegedly. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (12 Jan 2017 1.25pm) If there were such a real thing as 'freedom' then as Hillary got more than 50% of the votes we wouldn't be talking about Trump now. The world would be doing itself a favour if it tipped Donald off it and Putin while it is at it.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 12 Jan 17 1.39pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
If there were such a real thing as 'freedom' then as Hillary got more than 50% of the votes we wouldn't be talking about Trump now. The world would be doing itself a favour if it tipped Donald off it and Putin while it is at it. No it wouldn't, but I think many are too blind to see it. We are all being managed. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (12 Jan 2017 1.40pm)
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| Mr_Gristle In the land of Whelk Eaters 12 Jan 17 1.51pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (12 Jan 2017 1.40pm) I agree on this - and it's not even all that subtle anymore.
Well I think Simon's head is large; always involved in espionage. (Name that tune) |
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| steeleye20 Croydon 12 Jan 17 1.54pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
If there were such a real thing as 'freedom' then as Hillary got more than 50% of the votes we wouldn't be talking about Trump now. The world would be doing itself a favour if it tipped Donald off it and Putin while it is at it. How imperfect democracy can be. So despite Mrs.Clinton actually winning the 'popular vote' there will be very little democratic representation?
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| Hrolf The Ganger 12 Jan 17 2.01pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
How imperfect democracy can be. So despite Mrs.Clinton actually winning the 'popular vote' there will be very little democratic representation? Changing electoral systems is always a subject for debate, certainly in this country for one. But the rules are set out before the event and that is the end of the discussion on any past election or referendum. Now I would welcome better representation for some of the English parties who got a significant share of the vote but few seats while a Scottish party got sod all votes and 50 odd seats.
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regal_eagle  somewhere 12 Jan 17 2.12pm |
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Why is this Trump/hooker thing only just coming to the news now? I heard about it whilst he was still campaigning, about 3 months ago. Surely it would have been a better idea to leak the news then..?
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 12 Jan 17 2.17pm |
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Originally posted by regal_eagle
Why is this Trump/hooker thing only just coming to the news now? I heard about it whilst he was still campaigning, about 3 months ago. Surely it would have been a better idea to leak the news then..? Because Buzzfeed published the story. The FBI have been investigating several issues related to this since December - Apparently many news channels and papers had the story but didn't run it pending 'confirmation'.
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Y Ddraig Goch  In The Crowd 12 Jan 17 2.17pm |
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Originally posted by regal_eagle
Why is this Trump/hooker thing only just coming to the news now? I heard about it whilst he was still campaigning, about 3 months ago. Surely it would have been a better idea to leak the news then..? News agencies knew about it, but with no corroborative evidence didn't want to run the story. It is being reported now because it is part of a bigger dossier and deemed credible in the context of what has happened.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 12 Jan 17 2.22pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I don't trust the motivations of any of these people. The "establishment" don't want Trump as President. They would stop at nothing to oust him if they wanted to. Trump will be nowhere near the first politician to be accused of or caught in compromising situations. Kennedy was often in one allegedly. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (12 Jan 2017 1.25pm) Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (12 Jan 2017 1.41pm) The Illuminati huh? and such organisations that can manipulate global events with perfect precision, couldn't deal with something like Trump as a presidential candidate, or rig an election. If you believe in the Illuminati, why wouldn't you believe that they were behind the election of Donald Trump. If the Illuminati are in control, then I'd have thought they'd have done a better job of management and rigging the system for their candidate.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 12 Jan 17 2.25pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
No it wouldn't, but I think many are too blind to see it. We are all being managed. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (12 Jan 2017 1.40pm) Except you of course, you see the light, and of course Brexit and Trump will change all that... The scary thing is that no one is really in control, its just chaos, with some people competing to be the person who points the ship in a certain direction, and no one knows where land is. The truth is, we'd actually be better off is some all powerful conspiracy was effectively manipulating and controlling all of society.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 12 Jan 17 2.32pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
The Illuminati huh? and such organisations that can manipulate global events with perfect precision, couldn't deal with something like Trump as a presidential candidate, or rig an election. If you believe in the Illuminati, why wouldn't you believe that they were behind the election of Donald Trump. If the Illuminati are in control, then I'd have thought they'd have done a better job of management and rigging the system for their candidate. Well I'm not so sure about that. The election was a sure thing for Clinton if you remember. I used the term illuminati tongue in cheek of course but those who run America, and I don't mean politicians, don't want Trump and I'd have thought you would be someone who would recognise that they are not necessarily acting in the interests of the majority.
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