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sydtheeagle Flag England 28 Sep 15 11.51am Send a Private Message to sydtheeagle Add sydtheeagle as a friend

Quote Hoof Hearted at 28 Sep 2015 11.18am

sydtheeagle gives up..... that's a first.

Now that I'm officially a member of the underclass, what would you expect?

 


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Hoof Hearted 28 Sep 15 11.54am

Quote sydtheeagle at 28 Sep 2015 11.51am

Quote Hoof Hearted at 28 Sep 2015 11.18am

sydtheeagle gives up..... that's a first.

Now that I'm officially a member of the underclass, what would you expect?


LOL.... nice comeback....

 

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dannyh Flag wherever I lay my hat....... 28 Sep 15 12.06pm Send a Private Message to dannyh Add dannyh as a friend

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Quote Hoof Hearted at 26 Sep 2015 6.41pm

I think your dad might be ashamed that his son is on a message board defending the utter disrespect of a serving RAF sergeant's right to be treated in hospital wearing his uniform.....

But he was treated in his uniform. No one asked him to take it off. No one is saying otherwise. They merely asked him to sit in an area where they could be certain his uniform would not create trouble. That is something entirely different. You are making things up.


So why would such a uniform of a british serviceman cause "trouble" and who would cause such trouble ?

Why should the Service men have to be moved out of sight to upease the situation, why not tell the offended if you don't like it move where you can't see him, or better still fcuk off completely ?

The fact that the service person was asked to move at all (because of potentially causing offence) is an absolute direct f***ing liberty and a reflextion of the apologistic ashamed to be british pussy holes that are now rife in our society.

I think somene mentioned how Lee Rigby has got nothing to do with this ? It has everything to do with this, we have become afraid/ashamed of our own troops, flag, and social habbits that they may offend johnny foriegner so we hide away like timid little mice, IN OUR OWN f***ING COUNTRY.

Well not me I will wear my uniform with pride, I am Proud to be in the Armed Forces, Proud that I served in Iraq and Afgahnistan, proud of the flag of St George, and proud that I live in a mainly multicutural Britain where most people just want to get along.

I welcome anyone to tell me to hide my uniform, I would suggest you are out of Punching range when you do.

Edited by dannyh (28 Sep 2015 12.09pm)

 


"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 28 Sep 15 12.13pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

If you liked that story, you will love this one.

The absurdity of this one made me laugh I will admit.

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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 28 Sep 15 12.15pm Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Quote Hoof Hearted at 28 Sep 2015 11.49am

Quote aquickgame2 at 28 Sep 2015 11.46am

What a state our country has become that a serving soldier has to be asked to leave/hide/get out the way/whatever it was because he was in uniform, from a hospital.

Spent a lot of time in the States recently,guaranteed this would not ever happen over there,he would most probably gone to first in the queue.


Well said Paul.

The USA as a nation are proud of their serving soldiers, whereas we seem to have an underclass of apologists as well as foreign nationals continually having a pop.


The returning Vietnam vets were treated appallingly by the states and general population.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 28 Sep 15 12.19pm

Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 28 Sep 2015 12.13pm

If you liked that story, you will love this one.

The absurdity of this one made me laugh I will admit.

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Almost as bad as the IRA sympathist Weeble exhibit at the 1983 worlds fair.

 

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sydtheeagle Flag England 28 Sep 15 12.38pm Send a Private Message to sydtheeagle Add sydtheeagle as a friend

Quote dannyh at 28 Sep 2015 12.06pm

So why would such a uniform of a british serviceman cause "trouble" and who would cause such trouble ?

Because, sadly, there are some idiots in our society. Dangerous idiots, too. You've been fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan so you should know better than most. Unfortunately, and whether we like it or not, they have some sympathisers in the free world, including over here. There's not much we can do about it.

Quote dannyh at 28 Sep 2015 12.06pm

Why should the Service men have to be moved out of sight to upease the situation, why not tell the offended if you don't like it move where you can't see him, or better still fcuk off completely ?

Because the nurse didn't know who the potentially offended were. I'm quite sure if she'd been able to see, say, two or three trouble makers then hospital security would have removed them. She simply made a judgment call based on previous experience that a uniform might (stress: might) cause trouble and therefore she decided to mitigate the risk by asking the soldier to sit elsewhere. Was that the right thing to do? I would say probably, on balance, no. Our instinctive reaction should be to put pride in our military first. But I can still understand why she did it, and I'm not going to criticise her for doing what she thought was the right thing. If you have to blame someone, it's the society that shaped the individuals involved in this incident and not the individuals themselves.

Quote dannyh at 28 Sep 2015 12.06pm

The fact that the service person was asked to move at all (because of potentially causing offence) is an absolute direct f***ing liberty and a reflextion of the apologistic ashamed to be british pussy holes that are now rife in our society.

While I wouldn't use your language, I would agree totally that her decision is a reflection of an unwelcome trend in our society. I still don't blame the nurse but you are absolutely right in thinking her behaviour reflects how we are today. And I agree, it's not right.

Quote dannyh at 28 Sep 2015 12.06pm

I think somene mentioned how Lee Rigby has got nothing to do with this ? It has everything to do with this, we have become afraid/ashamed of our own troops, flag, and social habbits that they may offend johnny foriegner so we hide away like timid little mice, IN OUR OWN f***ING COUNTRY.

A great many of the Jihadist Johnny Foreigners you refer to are, in fact, English. I believe it's on UK passports that they depart for Syria to join ISIS. With regard to Lee Rigby, I recall he was treated like a hero and in the aftermath of that awful incident, he was accorded huge respect from the general public. I also think that while as a society we have become intimidated by the threat of terrorism, we have NOT lost respect for our military. But many have become scared to show their respect, as the hospital incident suggests.

Quote dannyh at 28 Sep 2015 12.06pm

Well not me I will wear my uniform with pride, I am Proud to be in the Armed Forces, Proud that I served in Iraq and Afgahnistan, proud of the flag of St George, and proud that I live in a mainly multicutural Britain where most people just want to get along.

And so you should be.

Quote dannyh at 28 Sep 2015 12.06pm

I welcome anyone to tell me to hide my uniform, I would suggest you are out of Punching range when you do.

I seriously doubt you would punch a young, well intentioned nurse in the face for politely trying to do what she thought was right. If you did, you'd be a disgrace to the military and as a serving soldier, I doubt you are that.

Edited by sydtheeagle (28 Sep 2015 12.41pm)

 


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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 28 Sep 15 12.43pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Quote Kermit8 at 28 Sep 2015 12.15pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 28 Sep 2015 11.49am

Quote aquickgame2 at 28 Sep 2015 11.46am

What a state our country has become that a serving soldier has to be asked to leave/hide/get out the way/whatever it was because he was in uniform, from a hospital.

Spent a lot of time in the States recently,guaranteed this would not ever happen over there,he would most probably gone to first in the queue.


Well said Paul.

The USA as a nation are proud of their serving soldiers, whereas we seem to have an underclass of apologists as well as foreign nationals continually having a pop.


The returning Vietnam vets were treated appallingly by the states and general population.


Yes by the usual unwashed scumbags who will rail against anything that they don't agree with (Shoreditch yesterday RE Gentrification) back in the day when football wasn't as widely available as it is today I worked in a bar where to come in and watch a game you were charged a 10 dollar cover. I was told in no uncertain terms never to charge any serviceman the cover (It was fleet week in NYC) Overall there is a different mindset here to serviceman as a Brit you do notice it. Its not unusual to see someone in a diner or restaurant pick up the tab for someone in the services and they usually get reduced admissions if they turn up to watch a sporting event.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 28 Sep 15 12.50pm

Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 28 Sep 2015 12.13pm

If you liked that story, you will love this one.

The absurdity of this one made me laugh I will admit.

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Support for the Sylvanian refugees is disgusting. I demand that all the hedgehogs be rehoused in the UK.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 28 Sep 15 12.56pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 28 Sep 2015 12.50pm

Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 28 Sep 2015 12.13pm

If you liked that story, you will love this one.

The absurdity of this one made me laugh I will admit.

[Link]

Support for the Sylvanian refugees is disgusting. I demand that all the hedgehogs be rehoused in the UK.

Not to be confused with the Sylvianian refugees escaping Japan.

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 28 Sep 15 12.56pm

Quote Kermit8 at 28 Sep 2015 12.15pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 28 Sep 2015 11.49am

Quote aquickgame2 at 28 Sep 2015 11.46am

What a state our country has become that a serving soldier has to be asked to leave/hide/get out the way/whatever it was because he was in uniform, from a hospital.

Spent a lot of time in the States recently,guaranteed this would not ever happen over there,he would most probably gone to first in the queue.


Well said Paul.

The USA as a nation are proud of their serving soldiers, whereas we seem to have an underclass of apologists as well as foreign nationals continually having a pop.


The returning Vietnam vets were treated appallingly by the states and general population.

But no where near as badly as the media of the time made out interestingly. The right of democracy must also include the right to protest the states actions. Its worth noting that the US treatment of US protestors was far worse than that of returning veterans, but that got little play in the press.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 28 Sep 15 1.04pm

Quote elgrande at 28 Sep 2015 1.18am

Quote sydtheeagle at 26 Sep 2015 5.34pm

Quote oldcodger at 26 Sep 2015 5.25pm

You've got to laugh, some live in this comic book world where all muslims are murdering ISIS rapists, then when millions of them who obviously aren't part of ISIS and are decent sane people try to flee this madness, they are suddenly cowards on the take.

Edited by oldcodger (26 Sep 2015 5.25pm)

Could not agree with you more. It's hard to believe my dad fought in a war against fascism so people like Tom would be at liberty to spout this sort of crap. He'd be turning in his grave if he heard it.

Edited by sydtheeagle (26 Sep 2015 5.34pm)

Yeah and my father fought in WW11 so we could be proud of our servicemen/women,not to hide them away,because they might offend.

Funny most people fought in WWII because they were drafted, or because you know, there was a war on. Very few people actually fought because on reflection they'd decided that the ideology of Fascism was abhorrent (you'd probably have expected them to do more in Spain if they had).

The whole 'lets appropriate the war dead' to justify our own position is an insult to those people, it reduces men and womens life to a single assumption about them.

Similarly, the murder of Lee Rigby was a terrible crime, but it does an insult to his memory and being, when people appropriate his death as a means to pursue an agenda, typically indiscriminately. Its the same sickness that masqurades Islamic Terrorism in the exaltation of the terrorist or suicide bomber as a Martyr to a cause as a means of attraction and publicity. They're not martyrs, they're murderers. A martyr doesn't kill they protect, and die protecting their people or faith, not indiscriminately targeting a perceived enemy.


 


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