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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 07 Sep 15 12.06pm

Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 07 Sep 2015 11.54am

The shame of it was that the stupid actions of the Argentinian government forced British soldiers to take Argentinian lives and vice versa. The two peoples are not natural enemies and it was an avoidable tragedy for everyone.

This. Despite the frenzy of the tabloids, the faces of those Argentine POW who were barely old enough to shave conscripts pressed into the service of a cruel and murderous regime, said more than anything what a tragic waste of life the Falklands were and how it really was about the ego and greed of a regime unwilling to let go of its power.

The UK had no choice but to respond with military action. The Junta would never have backed down.


 


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leggedstruggle Flag Croydon 07 Sep 15 1.16pm

This discussion of the 1983 General Election (the one in which Legaleagle canvassed and was apparently told that people wanted nationalisation of the banks and major industries, unilateral nuclear disarmament, and the lifting of immigration controls, but would reluctantly postpone those great reforms to re-elect a Tory), triggered me to re-read the Labour Party Manifesto of 1983.

The section on 'Britain and the Common Market' makes interesting reading:

"Geography and history determine that Britain is part of Europe, and Labour wants to see Europe safe and prosperous. But the European Economic Community was never devised to suit us, and our experience as a member of it has made it more difficult for us to deal with our economic and industrial problems. It has sometimes weakened our ability to achieve the objectives of Labour's international policy. The next Labour government, committed to radical, socialist policies for reviving the British economy, is bound to find continued membership a most serious obstacle to the fulfilment of those policies. In particular the rules of the Treaty of Rome are bound to conflict with our strategy for economic growth and full employment, our proposals on industrial policy and for increasing trade, and our need to restore exchange controls and to regulate direct overseas investment. Moreover, by preventing us from buying food from the best sources of world supply, they would run counter to our plans to control prices and inflation. For all these reasons, British withdrawal from the Community is the right policy for Britain - to be completed well within the lifetime of the parliament. That is our commitment."

It could be from the UKIP manifesto (apart from the 'radical, socialist policies for ruining (sorry should read reviving) the British economy'. Why the complete change of direction Labour? I know left wingers are used to sudden changes of party line when they have to condemn things when they are perpetrated by people they disapprove of, but ignore the same things when they are carried out by comrades, but this is a startling turn around. I did read somewhere that Corbyn is still anti-EU, but I expect he is still mentally in 1983. In any event he is very quite on the subject,

 


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Sedlescombe Flag Sedlescombe 07 Sep 15 3.26pm Send a Private Message to Sedlescombe Add Sedlescombe as a friend

Quote bright&wright at 07 Sep 2015 8.07am

Never heard of this c*nt before.

Apparently, he's described as a Marxist, he writes for The Guardian and he's a friend of George Galloway.

When people wanting to bring back Capital Punishment put forward their argument I would just say 2 words - Richard Seymour.

He doesn't write for they Guardian as they have sacked him

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legaleagle Flag 07 Sep 15 4.02pm

Quote leggedstruggle at 07 Sep 2015 1.16pm

This discussion of the 1983 General Election (the one in which Legaleagle canvassed and was apparently told that people wanted nationalisation of the banks and major industries, unilateral nuclear disarmament, and the lifting of immigration controls, but would reluctantly postpone those great reforms to re-elect a Tory), triggered me to re-read the Labour Party Manifesto of 1983.

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By all means promote your own political agenda,but if you are going to summarise me,at least do it accurately as opposed to utilising invention.What I found were quite a number of "floating" voters who ultimately were influenced very strongly by their perception of Maggie as a good and strong leader following the Falklands.

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Quote legaleagle at 07 Sep 2015 4.02pm

Quote leggedstruggle at 07 Sep 2015 1.16pm

This discussion of the 1983 General Election (the one in which Legaleagle canvassed and was apparently told that people wanted nationalisation of the banks and major industries, unilateral nuclear disarmament, and the lifting of immigration controls, but would reluctantly postpone those great reforms to re-elect a Tory), triggered me to re-read the Labour Party Manifesto of 1983.

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By all means promote your own political agenda,but if you are going to summarise me,at least do it accurately as opposed to utilising invention.What I found were quite a number of "floating" voters who ultimately were influenced very strongly by their perception of Maggie as a good and strong leader following the Falklands.

Edited by legaleagle (07 Sep 2015 4.02pm)


My experience of that election - and I have always been pretty accurate at calling elections I was involved in was that it converted a modest Tory win into a landslide

Don't forget the Tory vote went down in 1993 - about 600k fewer people voted Conservative but the opposition was deeply split

 

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