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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 18 Aug 15 5.09pm

Quote TheJudge at 18 Aug 2015 4.32pmI mean that just because something has been going on for ages it does make it desirable or acceptable.

If smoking didn't harm you, we could all smoke our arses off and it wouldn't matter.
Brown teeth and yellow stained ceilings would have to remain fashionable though.

It does, if there is a significant percentage of the population who are into it, and the health risks are moderated to be 'their own'. Doesn't actually matter that it harms the individual, their choice, their responsibility - sufficient warnings and provision are made by society to assist them if they so desire to stop.

But it is pleasurable, the stimulation of nicotine on the ACL receptor sites, nicotine is unusual in that its both a stimulant and a relaxant.

It has a very well established psychoactive affect.


 

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TheJudge Flag 18 Aug 15 8.51pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 18 Aug 2015 5.09pm

Quote TheJudge at 18 Aug 2015 4.32pmI mean that just because something has been going on for ages it does make it desirable or acceptable.

If smoking didn't harm you, we could all smoke our arses off and it wouldn't matter.
Brown teeth and yellow stained ceilings would have to remain fashionable though.

It does, if there is a significant percentage of the population who are into it, and the health risks are moderated to be 'their own'. Doesn't actually matter that it harms the individual, their choice, their responsibility - sufficient warnings and provision are made by society to assist them if they so desire to stop.

But it is pleasurable, the stimulation of nicotine on the ACL receptor sites, nicotine is unusual in that its both a stimulant and a relaxant.

It has a very well established psychoactive affect.



It does really.

The cost to the NHS is significantfor one thing. Also you imply that smoking is a choice which in reality it is not. The first few cigs you smoke might be but the rest are addiction.
The biggest favour you could do most smokers is to reduce their opportunity to smoke. There is a relationship between limiting places to smoke and people giving it up.

 
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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 19 Aug 15 9.30am

Quote TheJudge at 18 Aug 2015 8.51pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 18 Aug 2015 5.09pm

Quote TheJudge at 18 Aug 2015 4.32pmI mean that just because something has been going on for ages it does make it desirable or acceptable.

If smoking didn't harm you, we could all smoke our arses off and it wouldn't matter.
Brown teeth and yellow stained ceilings would have to remain fashionable though.

It does, if there is a significant percentage of the population who are into it, and the health risks are moderated to be 'their own'. Doesn't actually matter that it harms the individual, their choice, their responsibility - sufficient warnings and provision are made by society to assist them if they so desire to stop.

But it is pleasurable, the stimulation of nicotine on the ACL receptor sites, nicotine is unusual in that its both a stimulant and a relaxant.

It has a very well established psychoactive affect.



It does really.

The cost to the NHS is significantfor one thing. Also you imply that smoking is a choice which in reality it is not. The first few cigs you smoke might be but the rest are addiction.
The biggest favour you could do most smokers is to reduce their opportunity to smoke. There is a relationship between limiting places to smoke and people giving it up.

I think this is where we differ, I see people as individuals capable of agency and responsibility and that its their choice, both to start and to stop. Everything in life has one inevitable outcome, death.

If an individual smokes, or doesn't, they still die. If they enjoy smoking, they know the risks and the problems, that's their choice. Certainly I've been a casual smoker, a non-smoker and a proper full on smoker (all at different times). The one defining feature is that I actually like smoking (even nicotine free).

Similarly a lot of smokers also aren't addicts in the classic sense, as they experience no real problems in giving up.

The cost to the NHS is definitely an issue, but as it costs less over the average individuals lifespan to treat smokers and non-smokers, its an issue because you'd need to establish revenue.


 

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legaleagle Flag 19 Aug 15 9.43am

It's estimated £12 billion tax revenue came from tobacco in 2012-13 (direct and VAT).

 
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TheJudge Flag 19 Aug 15 9.49am

Quote jamiemartin721 at 19 Aug 2015 9.30am

Quote TheJudge at 18 Aug 2015 8.51pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 18 Aug 2015 5.09pm

Quote TheJudge at 18 Aug 2015 4.32pmI mean that just because something has been going on for ages it does make it desirable or acceptable.

If smoking didn't harm you, we could all smoke our arses off and it wouldn't matter.
Brown teeth and yellow stained ceilings would have to remain fashionable though.

It does, if there is a significant percentage of the population who are into it, and the health risks are moderated to be 'their own'. Doesn't actually matter that it harms the individual, their choice, their responsibility - sufficient warnings and provision are made by society to assist them if they so desire to stop.

But it is pleasurable, the stimulation of nicotine on the ACL receptor sites, nicotine is unusual in that its both a stimulant and a relaxant.

It has a very well established psychoactive affect.



It does really.

The cost to the NHS is significantfor one thing. Also you imply that smoking is a choice which in reality it is not. The first few cigs you smoke might be but the rest are addiction.
The biggest favour you could do most smokers is to reduce their opportunity to smoke. There is a relationship between limiting places to smoke and people giving it up.

I think this is where we differ, I see people as individuals capable of agency and responsibility and that its their choice, both to start and to stop. Everything in life has one inevitable outcome, death.

If an individual smokes, or doesn't, they still die. If they enjoy smoking, they know the risks and the problems, that's their choice. Certainly I've been a casual smoker, a non-smoker and a proper full on smoker (all at different times). The one defining feature is that I actually like smoking (even nicotine free).

Similarly a lot of smokers also aren't addicts in the classic sense, as they experience no real problems in giving up.

The cost to the NHS is definitely an issue, but as it costs less over the average individuals lifespan to treat smokers and non-smokers, its an issue because you'd need to establish revenue.



I understand your point of veiw but make no mistake, smokers are addicts.
Anyone saying that they could easily give up is the nicotine talking.
There is nothing pleasurable about smoking once you remove the addiction and the habit of holding the cigarette.

 
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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 19 Aug 15 10.45am

Quote TheJudge at 19 Aug 2015 9.49am

Quote jamiemartin721 at 19 Aug 2015 9.30am

Quote TheJudge at 18 Aug 2015 8.51pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 18 Aug 2015 5.09pm

Quote TheJudge at 18 Aug 2015 4.32pmI mean that just because something has been going on for ages it does make it desirable or acceptable.

If smoking didn't harm you, we could all smoke our arses off and it wouldn't matter.
Brown teeth and yellow stained ceilings would have to remain fashionable though.

It does, if there is a significant percentage of the population who are into it, and the health risks are moderated to be 'their own'. Doesn't actually matter that it harms the individual, their choice, their responsibility - sufficient warnings and provision are made by society to assist them if they so desire to stop.

But it is pleasurable, the stimulation of nicotine on the ACL receptor sites, nicotine is unusual in that its both a stimulant and a relaxant.

It has a very well established psychoactive affect.



It does really.

The cost to the NHS is significantfor one thing. Also you imply that smoking is a choice which in reality it is not. The first few cigs you smoke might be but the rest are addiction.
The biggest favour you could do most smokers is to reduce their opportunity to smoke. There is a relationship between limiting places to smoke and people giving it up.

I think this is where we differ, I see people as individuals capable of agency and responsibility and that its their choice, both to start and to stop. Everything in life has one inevitable outcome, death.

If an individual smokes, or doesn't, they still die. If they enjoy smoking, they know the risks and the problems, that's their choice. Certainly I've been a casual smoker, a non-smoker and a proper full on smoker (all at different times). The one defining feature is that I actually like smoking (even nicotine free).

Similarly a lot of smokers also aren't addicts in the classic sense, as they experience no real problems in giving up.

The cost to the NHS is definitely an issue, but as it costs less over the average individuals lifespan to treat smokers and non-smokers, its an issue because you'd need to establish revenue.



I understand your point of veiw but make no mistake, smokers are addicts.
Anyone saying that they could easily give up is the nicotine talking.
There is nothing pleasurable about smoking once you remove the addiction and the habit of holding the cigarette.

I was talking about people who had quit, and did so with little or no problem. Happens all the time.

I find it pleasurable, and the neurochemical reaction does stimulate a pleasurable effect. Generally people don't get addicted to things they find displeasurable (and quit easily). May not be non-smokers experience, but I liked it from the first one to the last one.

There is a difference between smoking because you're on the edge of 'withdrawls' and smoking for pleasure. I suspect its similar to 'maintenance fixing' and getting high with drug addicts.

The vape isn't the same, but its an still a joy.


 

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TheJudge Flag 19 Aug 15 11.00am

Quote jamiemartin721 at 19 Aug 2015 10.45am

Quote TheJudge at 19 Aug 2015 9.49am

Quote jamiemartin721 at 19 Aug 2015 9.30am

Quote TheJudge at 18 Aug 2015 8.51pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 18 Aug 2015 5.09pm

Quote TheJudge at 18 Aug 2015 4.32pmI mean that just because something has been going on for ages it does make it desirable or acceptable.

If smoking didn't harm you, we could all smoke our arses off and it wouldn't matter.
Brown teeth and yellow stained ceilings would have to remain fashionable though.

It does, if there is a significant percentage of the population who are into it, and the health risks are moderated to be 'their own'. Doesn't actually matter that it harms the individual, their choice, their responsibility - sufficient warnings and provision are made by society to assist them if they so desire to stop.

But it is pleasurable, the stimulation of nicotine on the ACL receptor sites, nicotine is unusual in that its both a stimulant and a relaxant.

It has a very well established psychoactive affect.



It does really.

The cost to the NHS is significantfor one thing. Also you imply that smoking is a choice which in reality it is not. The first few cigs you smoke might be but the rest are addiction.
The biggest favour you could do most smokers is to reduce their opportunity to smoke. There is a relationship between limiting places to smoke and people giving it up.

I think this is where we differ, I see people as individuals capable of agency and responsibility and that its their choice, both to start and to stop. Everything in life has one inevitable outcome, death.

If an individual smokes, or doesn't, they still die. If they enjoy smoking, they know the risks and the problems, that's their choice. Certainly I've been a casual smoker, a non-smoker and a proper full on smoker (all at different times). The one defining feature is that I actually like smoking (even nicotine free).

Similarly a lot of smokers also aren't addicts in the classic sense, as they experience no real problems in giving up.

The cost to the NHS is definitely an issue, but as it costs less over the average individuals lifespan to treat smokers and non-smokers, its an issue because you'd need to establish revenue.



I understand your point of veiw but make no mistake, smokers are addicts.
Anyone saying that they could easily give up is the nicotine talking.
There is nothing pleasurable about smoking once you remove the addiction and the habit of holding the cigarette.

I was talking about people who had quit, and did so with little or no problem. Happens all the time.

I find it pleasurable, and the neurochemical reaction does stimulate a pleasurable effect. Generally people don't get addicted to things they find displeasurable (and quit easily). May not be non-smokers experience, but I liked it from the first one to the last one.

There is a difference between smoking because you're on the edge of 'withdrawls' and smoking for pleasure. I suspect its similar to 'maintenance fixing' and getting high with drug addicts.

The vape isn't the same, but its an still a joy.


This sounds like self a justification delusion to me but you can vape yourself silly if you want.

I smoked in my twenties at a modest level and giving up was one of the best decision I ever made.

 
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Quote TheJudge at 19 Aug 2015 11.00am

Quote jamiemartin721 at 19 Aug 2015 10.45am

Quote TheJudge at 19 Aug 2015 9.49am

Quote jamiemartin721 at 19 Aug 2015 9.30am

Quote TheJudge at 18 Aug 2015 8.51pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 18 Aug 2015 5.09pm

Quote TheJudge at 18 Aug 2015 4.32pmI mean that just because something has been going on for ages it does make it desirable or acceptable.

If smoking didn't harm you, we could all smoke our arses off and it wouldn't matter.
Brown teeth and yellow stained ceilings would have to remain fashionable though.

It does, if there is a significant percentage of the population who are into it, and the health risks are moderated to be 'their own'. Doesn't actually matter that it harms the individual, their choice, their responsibility - sufficient warnings and provision are made by society to assist them if they so desire to stop.

But it is pleasurable, the stimulation of nicotine on the ACL receptor sites, nicotine is unusual in that its both a stimulant and a relaxant.

It has a very well established psychoactive affect.



It does really.

The cost to the NHS is significantfor one thing. Also you imply that smoking is a choice which in reality it is not. The first few cigs you smoke might be but the rest are addiction.
The biggest favour you could do most smokers is to reduce their opportunity to smoke. There is a relationship between limiting places to smoke and people giving it up.

I think this is where we differ, I see people as individuals capable of agency and responsibility and that its their choice, both to start and to stop. Everything in life has one inevitable outcome, death.

If an individual smokes, or doesn't, they still die. If they enjoy smoking, they know the risks and the problems, that's their choice. Certainly I've been a casual smoker, a non-smoker and a proper full on smoker (all at different times). The one defining feature is that I actually like smoking (even nicotine free).

Similarly a lot of smokers also aren't addicts in the classic sense, as they experience no real problems in giving up.

The cost to the NHS is definitely an issue, but as it costs less over the average individuals lifespan to treat smokers and non-smokers, its an issue because you'd need to establish revenue.



I understand your point of veiw but make no mistake, smokers are addicts.
Anyone saying that they could easily give up is the nicotine talking.
There is nothing pleasurable about smoking once you remove the addiction and the habit of holding the cigarette.

I was talking about people who had quit, and did so with little or no problem. Happens all the time.

I find it pleasurable, and the neurochemical reaction does stimulate a pleasurable effect. Generally people don't get addicted to things they find displeasurable (and quit easily). May not be non-smokers experience, but I liked it from the first one to the last one.

There is a difference between smoking because you're on the edge of 'withdrawls' and smoking for pleasure. I suspect its similar to 'maintenance fixing' and getting high with drug addicts.

The vape isn't the same, but its an still a joy.


This sounds like self a justification delusion to me but you can vape yourself silly if you want.

I smoked in my twenties at a modest level and giving up was one of the best decision I ever made.


Ah it all makes a bit more sense now. Former smokers are the toughest crowd. Generally people who never smoked are more tolerable to it

 
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TheJudge Flag 19 Aug 15 2.19pm

Quote I'mPalace Till I Die at 19 Aug 2015 1.21pm

Quote TheJudge at 19 Aug 2015 11.00am

Quote jamiemartin721 at 19 Aug 2015 10.45am

Quote TheJudge at 19 Aug 2015 9.49am

Quote jamiemartin721 at 19 Aug 2015 9.30am

Quote TheJudge at 18 Aug 2015 8.51pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 18 Aug 2015 5.09pm

Quote TheJudge at 18 Aug 2015 4.32pmI mean that just because something has been going on for ages it does make it desirable or acceptable.

If smoking didn't harm you, we could all smoke our arses off and it wouldn't matter.
Brown teeth and yellow stained ceilings would have to remain fashionable though.

It does, if there is a significant percentage of the population who are into it, and the health risks are moderated to be 'their own'. Doesn't actually matter that it harms the individual, their choice, their responsibility - sufficient warnings and provision are made by society to assist them if they so desire to stop.

But it is pleasurable, the stimulation of nicotine on the ACL receptor sites, nicotine is unusual in that its both a stimulant and a relaxant.

It has a very well established psychoactive affect.



It does really.

The cost to the NHS is significantfor one thing. Also you imply that smoking is a choice which in reality it is not. The first few cigs you smoke might be but the rest are addiction.
The biggest favour you could do most smokers is to reduce their opportunity to smoke. There is a relationship between limiting places to smoke and people giving it up.

I think this is where we differ, I see people as individuals capable of agency and responsibility and that its their choice, both to start and to stop. Everything in life has one inevitable outcome, death.

If an individual smokes, or doesn't, they still die. If they enjoy smoking, they know the risks and the problems, that's their choice. Certainly I've been a casual smoker, a non-smoker and a proper full on smoker (all at different times). The one defining feature is that I actually like smoking (even nicotine free).

Similarly a lot of smokers also aren't addicts in the classic sense, as they experience no real problems in giving up.

The cost to the NHS is definitely an issue, but as it costs less over the average individuals lifespan to treat smokers and non-smokers, its an issue because you'd need to establish revenue.



I understand your point of veiw but make no mistake, smokers are addicts.
Anyone saying that they could easily give up is the nicotine talking.
There is nothing pleasurable about smoking once you remove the addiction and the habit of holding the cigarette.

I was talking about people who had quit, and did so with little or no problem. Happens all the time.

I find it pleasurable, and the neurochemical reaction does stimulate a pleasurable effect. Generally people don't get addicted to things they find displeasurable (and quit easily). May not be non-smokers experience, but I liked it from the first one to the last one.

There is a difference between smoking because you're on the edge of 'withdrawls' and smoking for pleasure. I suspect its similar to 'maintenance fixing' and getting high with drug addicts.

The vape isn't the same, but its an still a joy.


This sounds like self a justification delusion to me but you can vape yourself silly if you want.

I smoked in my twenties at a modest level and giving up was one of the best decision I ever made.


Ah it all makes a bit more sense now. Former smokers are the toughest crowd. Generally people who never smoked are more tolerable to it


It has been said.

When I was a kid my family all smoked, and I remember smoke filled car journeys and yellow ceilings.
The funny part was that when they had bad coughs they would blame everything else except their smoking.

Deluded.

 
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Quote TheJudge at 19 Aug 2015 11.00am

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Quote TheJudge at 19 Aug 2015 9.49am

Quote jamiemartin721 at 19 Aug 2015 9.30am

Quote TheJudge at 18 Aug 2015 8.51pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 18 Aug 2015 5.09pm

Quote TheJudge at 18 Aug 2015 4.32pmI mean that just because something has been going on for ages it does make it desirable or acceptable.

If smoking didn't harm you, we could all smoke our arses off and it wouldn't matter.
Brown teeth and yellow stained ceilings would have to remain fashionable though.

It does, if there is a significant percentage of the population who are into it, and the health risks are moderated to be 'their own'. Doesn't actually matter that it harms the individual, their choice, their responsibility - sufficient warnings and provision are made by society to assist them if they so desire to stop.

But it is pleasurable, the stimulation of nicotine on the ACL receptor sites, nicotine is unusual in that its both a stimulant and a relaxant.

It has a very well established psychoactive affect.



It does really.

The cost to the NHS is significantfor one thing. Also you imply that smoking is a choice which in reality it is not. The first few cigs you smoke might be but the rest are addiction.
The biggest favour you could do most smokers is to reduce their opportunity to smoke. There is a relationship between limiting places to smoke and people giving it up.

I think this is where we differ, I see people as individuals capable of agency and responsibility and that its their choice, both to start and to stop. Everything in life has one inevitable outcome, death.

If an individual smokes, or doesn't, they still die. If they enjoy smoking, they know the risks and the problems, that's their choice. Certainly I've been a casual smoker, a non-smoker and a proper full on smoker (all at different times). The one defining feature is that I actually like smoking (even nicotine free).

Similarly a lot of smokers also aren't addicts in the classic sense, as they experience no real problems in giving up.

The cost to the NHS is definitely an issue, but as it costs less over the average individuals lifespan to treat smokers and non-smokers, its an issue because you'd need to establish revenue.



I understand your point of veiw but make no mistake, smokers are addicts.
Anyone saying that they could easily give up is the nicotine talking.
There is nothing pleasurable about smoking once you remove the addiction and the habit of holding the cigarette.

I was talking about people who had quit, and did so with little or no problem. Happens all the time.

I find it pleasurable, and the neurochemical reaction does stimulate a pleasurable effect. Generally people don't get addicted to things they find displeasurable (and quit easily). May not be non-smokers experience, but I liked it from the first one to the last one.

There is a difference between smoking because you're on the edge of 'withdrawls' and smoking for pleasure. I suspect its similar to 'maintenance fixing' and getting high with drug addicts.

The vape isn't the same, but its an still a joy.


This sounds like self a justification delusion to me but you can vape yourself silly if you want.

I smoked in my twenties at a modest level and giving up was one of the best decision I ever made.


Ah it all makes a bit more sense now. Former smokers are the toughest crowd. Generally people who never smoked are more tolerable to it


It has been said.

When I was a kid my family all smoked, and I remember smoke filled car journeys and yellow ceilings.
The funny part was that when they had bad coughs they would blame everything else except their smoking.

Deluded.


I'm going to track you down and smoke at you.

 

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TheJudge Flag 19 Aug 15 9.14pm

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Quote TheJudge at 19 Aug 2015 2.19pm

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Quote TheJudge at 19 Aug 2015 11.00am

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Quote TheJudge at 19 Aug 2015 9.49am

Quote jamiemartin721 at 19 Aug 2015 9.30am

Quote TheJudge at 18 Aug 2015 8.51pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 18 Aug 2015 5.09pm

Quote TheJudge at 18 Aug 2015 4.32pmI mean that just because something has been going on for ages it does make it desirable or acceptable.

If smoking didn't harm you, we could all smoke our arses off and it wouldn't matter.
Brown teeth and yellow stained ceilings would have to remain fashionable though.

It does, if there is a significant percentage of the population who are into it, and the health risks are moderated to be 'their own'. Doesn't actually matter that it harms the individual, their choice, their responsibility - sufficient warnings and provision are made by society to assist them if they so desire to stop.

But it is pleasurable, the stimulation of nicotine on the ACL receptor sites, nicotine is unusual in that its both a stimulant and a relaxant.

It has a very well established psychoactive affect.



It does really.

The cost to the NHS is significantfor one thing. Also you imply that smoking is a choice which in reality it is not. The first few cigs you smoke might be but the rest are addiction.
The biggest favour you could do most smokers is to reduce their opportunity to smoke. There is a relationship between limiting places to smoke and people giving it up.

I think this is where we differ, I see people as individuals capable of agency and responsibility and that its their choice, both to start and to stop. Everything in life has one inevitable outcome, death.

If an individual smokes, or doesn't, they still die. If they enjoy smoking, they know the risks and the problems, that's their choice. Certainly I've been a casual smoker, a non-smoker and a proper full on smoker (all at different times). The one defining feature is that I actually like smoking (even nicotine free).

Similarly a lot of smokers also aren't addicts in the classic sense, as they experience no real problems in giving up.

The cost to the NHS is definitely an issue, but as it costs less over the average individuals lifespan to treat smokers and non-smokers, its an issue because you'd need to establish revenue.



I understand your point of veiw but make no mistake, smokers are addicts.
Anyone saying that they could easily give up is the nicotine talking.
There is nothing pleasurable about smoking once you remove the addiction and the habit of holding the cigarette.

I was talking about people who had quit, and did so with little or no problem. Happens all the time.

I find it pleasurable, and the neurochemical reaction does stimulate a pleasurable effect. Generally people don't get addicted to things they find displeasurable (and quit easily). May not be non-smokers experience, but I liked it from the first one to the last one.

There is a difference between smoking because you're on the edge of 'withdrawls' and smoking for pleasure. I suspect its similar to 'maintenance fixing' and getting high with drug addicts.

The vape isn't the same, but its an still a joy.


This sounds like self a justification delusion to me but you can vape yourself silly if you want.

I smoked in my twenties at a modest level and giving up was one of the best decision I ever made.


Ah it all makes a bit more sense now. Former smokers are the toughest crowd. Generally people who never smoked are more tolerable to it


It has been said.

When I was a kid my family all smoked, and I remember smoke filled car journeys and yellow ceilings.
The funny part was that when they had bad coughs they would blame everything else except their smoking.

Deluded.


I'm going to track you down and smoke at you.

Stalker.

 
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It's easy to give up smoking. Most smokers have done it loads of times.

Rates of recidivism are massive, often after quite long breaks in smoking. Which just goes to show that if you want to give up, in most cases you can't. Therefore as an addict you just get on with it and try to normalise your plight by saying it's at your free will and everyone should be like you are.

It's a pattern you see with all addicts. And that constant attempt to normalise the addiction is what is so very pernicious.

 
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