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Ginger Pubic Wig Wickham de L'Ouest 05 Aug 21 4.34pm | |
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This YouTube video sets out well some changes to the loan system. I strongly disagree with his analyses of the rights and wrongs, but the facts are handy. Basically superclubs can't do loan armies any more for players over 22, meaning they can't stockpile talent. Especially from next year. So there should be good bargains emerging. Probably some forced selling now, but hugely so next year. We have squad space, other clubs not so much. Just a theory, but I never bought the idea that we ran down these contracts cos we are dumb.
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 05 Aug 21 4.51pm | |
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Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig
This YouTube video sets out well some changes to the loan system. I strongly disagree with his analyses of the rights and wrongs, but the facts are handy. Basically superclubs can't do loan armies any more for players over 22, meaning they can't stockpile talent. Especially from next year. So there should be good bargains emerging. Probably some forced selling now, but hugely so next year. We have squad space, other clubs not so much. Just a theory, but I never bought the idea that we ran down these contracts cos we are dumb. I suspected many of the players didn't want to renew. It's not just our choice.
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palace99 New Mills 05 Aug 21 5.29pm | |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
I suspected many of the players didn't want to renew. It's not just our choice. or renew based on the wages being offered!!!
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Badger11 Beckenham 05 Aug 21 5.43pm | |
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I agree with the new restrictions to stop PL clubs stock piling talent. Example Under Today's Rules: PL club think hang on we're paying this kid £3000 pw send him out on loan try and get £4,000 pw or at least offset some of his wages. Result: PL club doesn't take much of a risk and may even make a profit. Player may not develop as their spend critical time playing U23 football rather than learning to play in League 1. Now an example after the load changes: Teenager developed at League 1 club offered professional terms by club £300 per week. PL club think he might make it but are not certain so it is a financial risk to them as they can only loan 8 players. As he is on the bubble the PL club passes. Teenager signs with his home club. Result:
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rikz Croydon 05 Aug 21 8.43pm | |
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The club didn't let them run down, the players did, was on stupid money which they wouldn't get elsewhere.
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Bearcage Welling 06 Aug 21 12.07am | |
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The club could offer players an extension to their existing contracts on current terms, or let contract end and offer a new contract on different terms (lower wages), which they did. Some signed, others left or are still undecided. The wage bill was reduced significantly, enabling new players to be bought in.
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Ginger Pubic Wig Wickham de L'Ouest 06 Aug 21 6.43am | |
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But why did it all coalesce around summer 2021?
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southnorwoodhill 06 Aug 21 7.19am | |
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Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig
But why did it all coalesce around summer 2021? This is the question. Hard to think that Parish was unaware of the contract situation. However it does explain why Hodgson was retained for the final year, and left at the end thereof. With all the contracts expired I couldn't see any decent youngster signing on for a few seasons of Royball.
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Dubai Eagle 06 Aug 21 7.21am | |
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My thoughts on this were that SP / the club have been anticipating (or at the very least hoping) for new investment for some time, since around 12 months before covid came along, this new investment / new investors didnt materialise, then covid came along & attracting new investment became even harder - all this time the clock was ticking, the club knew that at some point in time they would have to have a reset, carrying on as we were would be unsustainable, the reset target date (if you will) became when RH was going to leave - all things culminated at the same time- so whilst it probably didnt start out as plan a, eventually everything merged together and became a sensible plan b, for sure we have leapt onto this plan b with everything we have , new manager, new players, older ones out the door & with a few weeks to go of the transfer window we are still being linked with attractive players- quite frankly the club couldnt have done more than they have done to make this reset a success, obviously time will tell but honestly if we get relegated this season at least we will go down having tried to plan our way forward, not spiralling out of control Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig
But why did it all coalesce around summer 2021?
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Badger11 Beckenham 06 Aug 21 7.58am | |
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Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig
But why did it all coalesce around summer 2021? I and others predicted this last summer: COVID was only a few months old, clubs were not dropping their player valuations as they hoped things would get back to normal soon. Why would you panic at that stage? I give credit to Parish that he guessed that transfers and wages would drop if not in the UK certainly around the rest of the world if Palace waited. * So the board decided not to renew contracts at that stage and to keep Roy for one more year hoping prices would fall. Events I think have proved him right, many of our PL competitors (Man City are not the competition) are not spending big because they have done so in the last few years. They most be regretting this as they have paid over the odds and have players on high wages. I think Parish has played a blinder as I don't think we have paid silly money for the new recruits. Only time will tell if we have the right manager and mix of players but so far so good. *The icing on the cake was the failure of the Super League we would have been in real trouble if that had taken off. Instead Barcelona and Real Madrid and some of the other big Europeans are the ones in financial trouble. In France the TV has failed. It's a buyers market if you can hold your nerve. Edited by Badger11 (06 Aug 2021 8.03am)
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Ketteridge Brighton 06 Aug 21 8.05am | |
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Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig
But why did it all coalesce around summer 2021? It is easy to put something down to planning in retrospect that probably comes about through coincidence or happenstance. We haven’t really signed anyone in the last 3-4 or years except Eze and Kouyate and a lot of the players we signed under Pardew, Allardyce and De Boer would have had their contracts coming to an end around the same time, given a typical 3-5 years contract, especially as they have were all a similar age, e.g. PVA , Benteke , Sakho we had already extend contracts for Schlupp and Luka who we knew we wanted to keep.
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Ketteridge Brighton 06 Aug 21 8.22am | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
I and others predicted this last summer: COVID was only a few months old, clubs were not dropping their player valuations as they hoped things would get back to normal soon. Why would you panic at that stage? I give credit to Parish that he guessed that transfers and wages would drop if not in the UK certainly around the rest of the world if Palace waited. * So the board decided not to renew contracts at that stage and to keep Roy for one more year hoping prices would fall. Events I think have proved him right, many of our PL competitors (Man City are not the competition) are not spending big because they have done so in the last few years. They most be regretting this as they have paid over the odds and have players on high wages. I think Parish has played a blinder as I don't think we have paid silly money for the new recruits. Only time will tell if we have the right manager and mix of players but so far so good. *The icing on the cake was the failure of the Super League we would have been in real trouble if that had taken off. Instead Barcelona and Real Madrid and some of the other big Europeans are the ones in financial trouble. In France the TV has failed. It's a buyers market if you can hold your nerve. Edited by Badger11 (06 Aug 2021 8.03am)
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