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Swindy Bromley 26 Jun 21 5.49pm | |
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Having followed the club for the best part of 50 years, every time that relegation from the top flight has happened in all that time (probably barring 1992-93), it has carried a certain inevitability.
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Elwissthebest Marlborough 26 Jun 21 5.56pm | |
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Eminently reasonable, but beware the Two Selhurst Commandments: 1. Thou shalt not think ill of Roy Hodgson.
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deleted 25 26 Jun 21 6.06pm | |
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Parish and co have done a lot of great things for the club. Choosing managers has long been the Achilles heal for the board. Same scenario happened with appointment of FdB. Basically we seem to be going for Cooper because nobody else wants to come and a lack of vision for what we want We are not alone, Clubs bigger than us like Spurs also Wing it.
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Pete53 Hassocks 26 Jun 21 7.18pm | |
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We are in a sorry state at present and I don't blame prospective managers walking away from taking on the job. Nobody wants a relegation on their CV, and even a top coach may find the job of keeping us up next season beyond them, if transfer funds are limited. Whilst I agree with most points made by the OP I would question how much succession planning can be done. Unless you are one of the big clubs I'm not sure how likely it is that you can get a quality coach to commit themselves to you in advance. Is a prospective manager really going to prematurely close down all other options for a job at Palace? Ultimately I believe we are hostage to whoever is available when the role becomes vacant.
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sprites Auckland 26 Jun 21 7.25pm | |
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Didn’t even bother reading. Sick of the moaning and abuse hurled at club heroes who are doing their best.
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sydtheeagle England 26 Jun 21 7.52pm | |
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Originally posted by Pete53
I don't blame prospective managers walking away from taking on the job. I don't blame them either unless they've spent three days interviewing, have agreed a contract on the basis of which they've asked for a work permit, and they've verbally indicated they're going to accept the job. Then, I blame them.
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becky over the moon 26 Jun 21 8.26pm | |
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Originally posted by Pete53
We are in a sorry state at present and I don't blame prospective managers walking away from taking on the job. Nobody wants a relegation on their CV, and even a top coach may find the job of keeping us up next season beyond them, if transfer funds are limited. Whilst I agree with most points made by the OP I would question how much succession planning can be done. Unless you are one of the big clubs I'm not sure how likely it is that you can get a quality coach to commit themselves to you in advance. Is a prospective manager really going to prematurely close down all other options for a job at Palace? Ultimately I believe we are hostage to whoever is available when the role becomes vacant. Sense: a rare commodity on here sometimes...
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braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 26 Jun 21 8.50pm | |
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i dont think you can claim mismanagement. none of the other PL teams, who work on a different level to us have appointed managers, and its not like we havnt tried to get somebody in. its very easy to point the finger & shout from a pedestal about this, that & whatever but you need to be realistic. the only criticism i would have right now other than that, yes i would have liked a manager in place by now, but its not a simple process.
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orpingtoneagle Orpington 26 Jun 21 9.34pm | |
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OK I get that there are other clubs who like us are looking for managers. That does make our quest harder as those clubs (Everton and Spurs) are financially better placed than us. But what does seem an issue is the sheer number of what have been key players who have been allowed to run down their contracts and who can leave for nothing. OK Wickham is a load off the wage bill but others are key players. These players will not want the uncertainty of no manager and will now also want a nice signing on fee to re sign. That is poor management. I also would guess that whilst we do need to rebuild, there is little actual money to do it. All the signs in recent transfer activity are of a club that is simply skint. Running any business should involve a bit of forward planning and future forecasting. From where I stand that may be an issue. But there are others I know who do believe Mr Parish can do no wrong. But equally they also probably believe Simon Jordan was an ace business man and bought back Selhurst Park.
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CT Charlie 26 Jun 21 10.51pm | |
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Certainly we're in a discouraging, possibly even dire, situation, but let's be reasonable, shall we? 1) Despite the passionate fan base, ours is not a club that would appeal to a top-level manager or one who aspires to be. Because of the aging squad, uncertain contract situations, and lack of funds, relegation is a real possibility regardless of the talent of the manager. 2) The uncertain contract situations are part of a Catch-22. Palace don't want to commit to players (nor they to us) until we find a new manager, but the new manager would not want to commit to Palace without knowing the core of the roster. 3) Who could have foreseen that both Spurs and Everton would be searching for managers when we were? And both are far more attractive, stable positions. 4) The pandemic has complicated the search for new players and a manager in unprecedented fashion. In normal times, it would have been far easier for S.P. to look for the right person. Furthermore, many foreign candidates may be more reluctant to even consider the Palace job - would they want to move to England under these circumstances? I'm not especially optimistic, and I acknowledge that the responsibility falls in the lap of Steve Parish. But it's only fair to acknowledge there's a perfect storm of circumstances that make the process almost impossible to have been done swiftly or well.
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HKOwen Hong Kong 27 Jun 21 12.18am | |
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Does it not make sense then to have a safe pair of hands in for now, start a properly planned and structured recruitment exercise and find a manger who is willing to take the job and then hopefully bring him in mid season for a smooth handover for the 22/23 season. Of course we could have done that.........
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Rachid Rachid Rachid 27 Jun 21 12.27am | |
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Originally posted by Swindy
Having followed the club for the best part of 50 years, every time that relegation from the top flight has happened in all that time (probably barring 1992-93), it has carried a certain inevitability. Every other team in the Premier League has made a lot of money as well and the technical ability in terms of playing and coaching is eons better than when we were promoted eight years ago. I think the situation is a mess but we've (comparatively) run out of money like Stoke and West Brom did.
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