1 Tiresome tribalism

2 A dislike of big faceless corporations?

Wondered for example what you make of this:

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Anything else?

Tiresome tribalism yes, but at least they genuinely believe in an idealogy, believe in principles. Better than most politicians.

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A love of futurist art movements and genocide. Also cracking uniforms and exceptional sexual prowess

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I wasn't really thinking about politicians, more about people. Plenty of posters on here talk about left/right wing - often as a way of defining others rather than themselves. I'm not convinced in general many people believe the ideology makes for a better country or leads to better outcomes, but it's easy to understand why membership of a group that reinforces their own views feels produces a sense of belonging not far removed from football. The 'we won, you lost' undertow is quite strong when commenting on plenty of political aspects.

Politicians are often a different breed - I do reckon most come in with a public service mindset, believing their ideas will make things better. But debate is often conducted in the same binary fashion - not really constructive debate.

Besides, can't centralism (is that a word?) be an ideology?

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