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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 06 Feb 23 9.08am
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle Is it a spoken word as I've never heard anyone say it although I see it written quite a lot. I don't know why we are worried about what words upset Americans as we gave them a perfectly serviceable language that they proceeded to mangle to bits I can confirm ME. Well only from my experience. When it first came about, being absolutely honest, I knew what it meant from context at the beginning but hadn't realised it was an acronym for quite a while actually. It's only now I freely admit to that as I wouldn't have previously I must say that I did have exposure to a lot of 20-somethings through work and my younger brother when it first came onto the scene which others may not have had. Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!
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The Democratic Republic of Kent 06 Feb 23 9.08am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Is it a spoken word as I've never heard anyone say it although I see it written quite a lot.

I don't know why we are worried about what words upset Americans as we gave them a perfectly serviceable language that they proceeded to mangle to bits

I can confirm ME. Well only from my experience.

When it first came about, being absolutely honest, I knew what it meant from context at the beginning but hadn't realised it was an acronym for quite a while actually. It's only now I freely admit to that as I wouldn't have previously

I must say that I did have exposure to a lot of 20-somethings through work and my younger brother when it first came onto the scene which others may not have had.

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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mr. apollo Somewhere in Switzerland 06 Feb 23 9.23am
A neologism (/niːˈɒlədʒɪzəm/) (from Greek νέο- néo(="new" and λόγος /lógos meaning "speech, utterance" is a relatively recent or isolated term, word, or phrase that may be in the process of entering common use, but that has not been fully accepted into mainstream language.[1] Neologisms are often driven by changes in culture and technology.[2][3] In the process of language formation, neologisms are more mature than protologisms.[4] A word whose development stage is between that of the protologism (freshly coined) and neologism (new word) is a prelogism.[5] Popular examples of neologisms can be found in science, fiction (notably science fiction), films and television, branding, literature, jargon, cant, linguistics, the visual arts, and popular culture. Former examples include laser (1960) from Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation; robot (1941) from Czech writer Karel Čapek's play R.U.R. (Rossum's Universal Robots);[6] and agitprop (1930) (a portmanteau of "agitation" and "propaganda".[7] Glad All Over
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Somewhere in Switzerland 06 Feb 23 9.23am

A neologism (/niːˈɒlədʒɪzəm/) (from Greek νέο- néo(="new" and λόγος /lógos meaning "speech, utterance" is a relatively recent or isolated term, word, or phrase that may be in the process of entering common use, but that has not been fully accepted into mainstream language.[1] Neologisms are often driven by changes in culture and technology.[2][3] In the process of language formation, neologisms are more mature than protologisms.[4] A word whose development stage is between that of the protologism (freshly coined) and neologism (new word) is a prelogism.[5]

Popular examples of neologisms can be found in science, fiction (notably science fiction), films and television, branding, literature, jargon, cant, linguistics, the visual arts, and popular culture.

Former examples include laser (1960) from Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation; robot (1941) from Czech writer Karel Čapek's play R.U.R. (Rossum's Universal Robots);[6] and agitprop (1930) (a portmanteau of "agitation" and "propaganda".[7]

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dreamwaverider London 06 Feb 23 11.03am
Originally posted by YT Good point, although I was surprised on reading one of Bill Bryson's books to learn that scores of words that we regard as American abominations are actually the exported English words, whereas we've done the mangling. Off the top of my head, a couple of examples are: 'fall' (autumn) and 'sidewalk' (pavement). Edited by YT (06 Feb 2023 9.00am) So we might have used the expression ‘fall of the leaf’ like ‘spring of the leaf’ but it was probably the Americans who abbreviated it.
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Originally posted by YT

Good point, although I was surprised on reading one of Bill Bryson's books to learn that scores of words that we regard as American abominations are actually the exported English words, whereas we've done the mangling. Off the top of my head, a couple of examples are: 'fall' (autumn) and 'sidewalk' (pavement).

Edited by YT (06 Feb 2023 9.00am)

So we might have used the expression ‘fall of the leaf’ like ‘spring of the leaf’ but it was probably the Americans who abbreviated it.

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YT Oxford 06 Feb 23 1.19pm
Originally posted by dreamwaverider So we might have used the expression ‘fall of the leaf’ like ‘spring of the leaf’ but it was probably the Americans who abbreviated it. It wasn't, I'm afraid. "Fall" was used in this country, as a contraction of "fall of the leaf" before being exported by English-speaking migrants. Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)
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Oxford 06 Feb 23 1.19pm

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

So we might have used the expression ‘fall of the leaf’ like ‘spring of the leaf’ but it was probably the Americans who abbreviated it.

It wasn't, I'm afraid. "Fall" was used in this country, as a contraction of "fall of the leaf" before being exported by English-speaking migrants.

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Teddy Eagle 06 Feb 23 2.13pm
Originally posted by YT It wasn't, I'm afraid. "Fall" was used in this country, as a contraction of "fall of the leaf" before being exported by English-speaking migrants. It's s also claimed that people in, I think, somewhere in Virginia speak with accents closer to Shakespearean English than anyone here. I don't mind GOAT - it amuses me that a more noble animal wasn't chosen. The Indisputably Greatest Ever Representative? Nothing against goats but most sportsmen would probably prefer being the TIGER.
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06 Feb 23 2.13pm

Originally posted by YT

It wasn't, I'm afraid. "Fall" was used in this country, as a contraction of "fall of the leaf" before being exported by English-speaking migrants.

It's s also claimed that people in, I think, somewhere in Virginia speak with accents closer to Shakespearean English than anyone here.
I don't mind GOAT - it amuses me that a more noble animal wasn't chosen. The Indisputably Greatest Ever Representative? Nothing against goats but most sportsmen would probably prefer being the TIGER.

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YT Oxford 06 Feb 23 2.47pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle It's s also claimed that people in, I think, somewhere in Virginia speak with accents closer to Shakespearean English than anyone here. I don't mind GOAT - it amuses me that a more noble animal wasn't chosen. The Indisputably Greatest Ever Representative? Nothing against goats but most sportsmen would probably prefer being the TIGER. Perhaps the retort against an inflated use of TIGER should be LION (Leave It Out, Now). Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)
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Oxford 06 Feb 23 2.47pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Perhaps the retort against an inflated use of TIGER should be LION (Leave It Out, Now).

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Dan Theolmesdaleroad Up north 06 Feb 23 7.22pm
Originally posted by YT Good point, although I was surprised on reading one of Bill Bryson's books to learn that scores of words that we regard as American abominations are actually the exported English words, whereas we've done the mangling. Off the top of my head, a couple of examples are: 'fall' (autumn) and 'sidewalk' (pavement). Edited by YT (06 Feb 2023 9.00am) Another one might be 'soccer', a shortened nickname for association football. Commonly used in the US, and other parts of the world such as Australia (whose national team is known as the 'Socceroos'), it was first used in Britain as far back as the 19th century and is nearly as old as the game itself.
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Originally posted by YT

Edited by YT (06 Feb 2023 9.00am)

Another one might be 'soccer', a shortened nickname for association football. Commonly used in the US, and other parts of the world such as Australia (whose national team is known as the 'Socceroos'), it was first used in Britain as far back as the 19th century and is nearly as old as the game itself.

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Teddy Eagle 06 Feb 23 7.47pm
Originally posted by Dan Theolmesdaleroad Another one might be 'soccer', a shortened nickname for association football. Commonly used in the US, and other parts of the world such as Australia (whose national team is known as the 'Socceroos'), it was first used in Britain as far back as the 19th century and is nearly as old as the game itself. That's public school slang like rugger for rugby. Brian Johnson (Johnners) on Test Match Special was fond of this sort of thing - Aggers for Jonathan Agnew and Blowers for Henry Blofeld.
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Teddy Eagle

06 Feb 23 7.47pm

Originally posted by Dan Theolmesdaleroad

That's public school slang like rugger for rugby. Brian Johnson (Johnners) on Test Match Special was fond of this sort of thing - Aggers for Jonathan Agnew and Blowers for Henry Blofeld.

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Dan Theolmesdaleroad Up north 06 Feb 23 8.04pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle That's public school slang like rugger for rugby. Brian Johnson (Johnners) on Test Match Special was fond of this sort of thing - Aggers for Jonathan Agnew and Blowers for Henry Blofeld. Yes, that's very true. Certainly not an Americanism, as many believe.
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Dan Theolmesdaleroad

Up north 06 Feb 23 8.04pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

That's public school slang like rugger for rugby. Brian Johnson (Johnners) on Test Match Special was fond of this sort of thing - Aggers for Jonathan Agnew and Blowers for Henry Blofeld.

Yes, that's very true. Certainly not an Americanism, as many believe.

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Midlands Eagle 07 Feb 23 2.21pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle That's public school slang like rugger for rugby. Brian Johnston (Johnners) on Test Match Special was fond of this sort of thing - Aggers for Jonathan Agnew and Blowers for Henry Blofeld. It isn't just public school as it seems to be endemic to all cricketers and not just commentators and not one of the England team is known to his colleagues by his real name
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

That's public school slang like rugger for rugby. Brian Johnston (Johnners) on Test Match Special was fond of this sort of thing - Aggers for Jonathan Agnew and Blowers for Henry Blofeld.

It isn't just public school as it seems to be endemic to all cricketers and not just commentators and not one of the England team is known to his colleagues by his real name

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YT Oxford 07 Feb 23 2.44pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle That's public school slang like rugger for rugby. Brian Johnson (Johnners) on Test Match Special was fond of this sort of thing - Aggers for Jonathan Agnew and Blowers for Henry Blofeld. You are correct in saying that the words Soccer and Rugger have their roots in academia, although I understood they were first coined by students at Oxford University. However, the word 'soccer' became an ingrained term widely used among the less privileged. I, as a child of the 60s, clearly recall 'soccer' being used in newsreels and in the working class environment in which I lived. I don't know if it will work, but here is a Subbuteo advert from the 60s: [Link] Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)
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Oxford 07 Feb 23 2.44pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

That's public school slang like rugger for rugby. Brian Johnson (Johnners) on Test Match Special was fond of this sort of thing - Aggers for Jonathan Agnew and Blowers for Henry Blofeld.

You are correct in saying that the words Soccer and Rugger have their roots in academia, although I understood they were first coined by students at Oxford University. However, the word 'soccer' became an ingrained term widely used among the less privileged. I, as a child of the 60s, clearly recall 'soccer' being used in newsreels and in the working class environment in which I lived. I don't know if it will work, but here is a Subbuteo advert from the 60s:

[Link]

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