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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 03 Dec 17 9.12pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by kingdowieonthewall

My then local, the cricketers on Shirley road, used to have 3 bars, public, saloon & lounge.
the lounge bar was strictly smart wear , couples would go out for the evening well dressed & yes served 'chicken & chips' in the basket!
old guys had their own tankards.
A mile up the road is the sandrock which at the time resembled a smart hotel bar, the staff all wore white dress shirts & black bow ties.

Yes I remember what I then considered old chaps (Now my age!) with their own tankards !
Never see tankards in pubs any more - just see glasses.
Once went to a pub in this more modern era, asked for a bottle of beer and the barmaid looked aghast when I asked for a glass ! Then I noticed young chaps drinking straight from the bottle so I thought this must be all the trend - not for me I'm afraid.

Edited by Willo (03 Dec 2017 9.13pm)

 

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eagle52 Flag Shirley,Croydon 05 Dec 17 11.35am Send a Private Message to eagle52 Add eagle52 as a friend

The Crown on Wickham Rd re-introduced tankards quite a while back,possibly seeing some novelty value in using them. When there was a choice everyone I knew,including myself, always preferred a straight glass to drink out of.

 

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Joe Bloggs Flag Nr Norwich 05 Dec 17 12.51pm Send a Private Message to Joe Bloggs Add Joe Bloggs as a friend

I am probably older than most on here and It is virtually impossible to compare things with the past.

The post war generation had more of a friendly attitude to each other because of what they had been through, televisions,washing machines and central heating were often a pipe dream. Highlights were perhaps going to watch Palace or going to " the pictures".

Back then housing was in short supply...ditto 2017.

An absolute nightmare for young people to get on a ladder for housing.

We have expanded our population at an unsustainable rate and hit the buffers and until we correct the housing and infrastructure we will struggle to get back on an even keel.

In my view society is much more aggressive and the behavior so much the poorer.

The computer and mobile phone have changed so many things and produced keyboard warriors which did not exist.

Some of the rudeness and things that get said on here resulting from that are crazy...do not say any thing via a keyboard that you would not say face to face ,
Stop Rant.

 

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stuckinbristol Flag In the woodwork. 05 Dec 17 1.01pm Send a Private Message to stuckinbristol Add stuckinbristol as a friend

I have been reading the posts, and have realised I probably worded my original post incorrectly.
I was more thinking about how, despite people being better off now, we, as society, are finding it harder to pay for community projects like parks and swimming pools ect.
Also pubs are closing at an alarming rate, presumably because people can’t afford to use them.
In Bristol they have just slashed the spending on crossing patrols, meaning many of these will go.
Just seems strange in a world where we are supposedly so much better off than our grandparents were.

 

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becky Flag over the moon 05 Dec 17 3.37pm Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Originally posted by stuckinbristol

I have been reading the posts, and have realised I probably worded my original post incorrectly.
I was more thinking about how, despite people being better off now, we, as society, are finding it harder to pay for community projects like parks and swimming pools ect.
Also pubs are closing at an alarming rate, presumably because people can’t afford to use them.
In Bristol they have just slashed the spending on crossing patrols, meaning many of these will go.
Just seems strange in a world where we are supposedly so much better off than our grandparents were.

Ah, but in those days the local councils were all manned, on a voluntary basis, by worthy local personages who felt it their civic duty - no salaried Councillors or Aldermen and no pension funds for them either (which apparently eats up a third of all Council Tax paid today).

Children with learning difficulties or 'special needs' all went to the same 'special' school, so it only needed one set of teachers from the education budget for them - rather than 1-2 additional classroom assistants/personal assistants at every level (all with salaries and pensions to be paid for).

Families tended to look after their own elderly, rather than expecting the local authorities to provide care for them (of which there was little or none actually available in those days - if you didn't look after your own Granny she would die!

So, yes, there was much, much more in the pot for public lavatories, flower clocks in the park, libraries, playgrounds and all the other communal things that rates were invented to pay for.

 


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YT Flag Oxford 05 Dec 17 4.31pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by becky

Ah, but in those days the local councils were all manned, on a voluntary basis, by worthy local personages who felt it their civic duty - no salaried Councillors or Aldermen and no pension funds for them either (which apparently eats up a third of all Council Tax paid today).

Children with learning difficulties or 'special needs' all went to the same 'special' school, so it only needed one set of teachers from the education budget for them - rather than 1-2 additional classroom assistants/personal assistants at every level (all with salaries and pensions to be paid for).

Families tended to look after their own elderly, rather than expecting the local authorities to provide care for them (of which there was little or none actually available in those days - if you didn't look after your own Granny she would die!

So, yes, there was much, much more in the pot for public lavatories, flower clocks in the park, libraries, playgrounds and all the other communal things that rates were invented to pay for.

Becky, I tend to agree - and I've posted elsewhere about this being the "age of entitlement" in many respects. But above all, I love your use of "personages"!

 


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Pikester Flag Worthing 05 Dec 17 9.36pm Send a Private Message to Pikester Add Pikester as a friend

Originally posted by kingdowieonthewall

what twaddle.
public toilets used to be open , clean & often had an attendant.
parks would be well maintained, have tennis courts, bowls, well maintained borders & were generally nice.
kids would be put in order if they stepped out of line, by not just their parents but other adults, called to task for throwing litter or generally getting on & there was not any concern about getting hospitalised if doing so.
people dressed tidier & cleaner, nobody would consider shuffling down to a corner shop in a dirty onesie, tracky suit etc.
they had more respect for themselves.
people used to go out smart & clean.
The smell of spliff was not common on the streets.
Sure there were rough areas, always have been, but often a straightner would occur in the pub car park, split lip or busted nose being it not a pack of vermin stamping on somebody.
Even seen to fella's give a begrudging hand shake after ones lost and go their own ways.
it used to be regarded as pretty w***y to take liberties once you'd got the better of somebody in a punch up, you'd lose respect for spite.
Christmas, the shops closed for days & all the better for it, families had parties Christmas night, together
No, things were better , a lot better.

I think the past seemed better because we were kids.
No bills, no worries, no worrying about your own kids.
It's easy to say "we only had a stick and a hoop and a copy of Razzle found in someone's hedge" and make it seem so much better than what the kids today have but I think it's just the rose tinted glasses.

Take going to Palace in the 70's and 80's - lots more aggro. LOW crowds in the early 80's - the facilities even worse than they are now..BUT I loved it. A new generation now love it the way it is and will tell their kids that the leaky old Main Stand was far better than this "5 storey plastic s***e."

I hear my parents talking about the good old days and they had f*** all - but they probably just enjoyed being young.

I hear my own kids reminisce about how their TV programmes were much better than the current ones.

I think your mind romanticises the past because being a kid or in your twenties is bloody great - I don't think it's any worse now - it's just different.

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 05 Dec 17 9.55pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

You mean, you preferred it.

Public toilets - Yep those are sorely missed, but then they were always dodgy as f**k after hours - and I definitely remember most of them stinking of p*ss, and the floor often being wet. I don't remember seeing attendants, maybe I'm not old enough.

I remember that rubbish was everywhere on the streets, infact there was a massive campaign about disposing of litter in bins. Plus there was dogs**t everywhere. No one picked up their dog sh*t and people often just let their dogs out to s**t and piss where they wanted.

Violence in pubs was far more common place, racism, football hooligansism etc. These days you just don't see it kicking off like it used to. Parks weren't much different round our way than they are now, except there less of them. I definitely remember that basically people were bullies, none of this fancy gentlemanly conduct you talk of. It'd be some c**t starting on you for the most absurd reasons.

Plus there was problems with people getting stabbed. No one I've known has been stabbed in the last twenty years. But in the eight years between being 18 and 26, three people I knew were proper stabbed.

And the choice of drinks in pubs was s**t. F**king awful, you put up with it, because you had no choice, but the chance of getting something other than the brewery's choice of two or three variant bitters and some generic p*ss lager, along with some s**t house branded spirits was unlikely. Plus no food, how s**t was that. KP peanuts, and maybe some golden wonder crips.

Christmas would be two days off, none of this modern stuff of closing down for a week, and you had to bloody go to the stores to buy presents, none of this fancy amazon delivery. Family Christmas parties, Jesus wept, who misses having a party with their family. That's like going to an AA-New Years Eve party.

As for better dressed, boring. Men's clothes have always been a bit s**t, but f**k me, the past was a bland place except for the goths, punks, mods etc. At least now the kids aren't so generic. F**k me, what was all that nonsense with Pringle jumpers and Filo.

Granted people who go out in onsies should be shot, but go back a couple of decades, and going outside wearing anything more exotic than a plain shirt, jumper and slacks, was licence for some drunk c**t to try and start a fight with you.

Plus you had to actually go into work to work, none of that working from home business.

As for things like p***. Jesus, what a hassle that was. God that gives me the chills, to think that if you wanted to see some actual action, it'd set you back upwards of a days wages, involving a trip to a specialist shop - and you'd have to watch it on VHS.

Its all just swings and roundabouts. Something's are better, something's are worse.

Young men with wedge haircuts, frayed hems on their jeans, Pringle jumpers or tennis tracksuit tops making fancy Filo pastry desserts? Are they the reason for the death of the Sara Lee Black Forest Gateaux, the b@stards?

Edited by Rudi Hedman (05 Dec 2017 9.56pm)

 


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