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Kermit8 Hevon 04 Feb 16 5.00pm | |
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Originally posted by elgrande
The Right Wing signed us up to Maastricht and freedom of movement for foreign workers. The Right Wing joined the EU in its original form. The right wing encouraged economic liberalism and were anti-protectionism. Most of what we have now that you don't like is the result of right wing government's implemented free market policies which were not reversed or regulated during Labour's tenure 1997-2010. The Right Wing by 2020 will have been in charge for 28 of the last 41 years. But let's blame the left anyway.
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elgrande bedford 04 Feb 16 5.00pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Far from being propelled by economic migrants, this crisis is mostly about refugees. The assumption by the likes of Hammond, May and others is that the majority of those trying to reach Europe are fleeing poverty, which is not considered by the international community as a good enough reason to move to another country. Whereas in fact, by the end of July, 62% of those who had reached Europe by boat this year were from Syria, Eritrea and Afghanistan, according to figures compiled by the UN. These are countries torn apart by war, dictatorial oppression, and religious extremism – and, in Syria’s case, all three. Their citizens almost always have the legal right to refuge in Europe. And if you add to the mix those coming from Darfur, Iraq, Somalia, and some parts of Nigeria – then the total proportion of migrants likely to qualify for asylum rises to well over 70%. If that is the case,you should settle in the first safe country.
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Stuk Top half 04 Feb 16 5.01pm | |
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Do what France did, declare them all safe countries. Job done. Australia ships them off, Israel traffics them back in to Africa. We just want another European country to deal with their own problems, not much to ask is it? If we left the EU however, we could easily cope with those seeking refuge or asylum as the net migration figures would drop off the cliff from current levels.
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Stuk Top half 04 Feb 16 5.04pm | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
The Right Wing signed us up to Maastricht and freedom of movement for foreign workers. The Right Wing joined the EU in its original form. The right wing encouraged economic liberalism and were anti-protectionism. Most of what we have now that you don't like is the result of right wing government's implemented free market policies which were not reversed or regulated during Labour's tenure 1997-2010. The Right Wing by 2020 will have been in charge for 28 of the last 41 years. But let's blame the left anyway. You've forgotten the coalition government, once again. f*** who signed up to what and why. It wasn't the current generation of voters, on either side of the fence and those that did get to vote believe they were blatantly lied to.
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elgrande bedford 04 Feb 16 5.28pm | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
The Right Wing signed us up to Maastricht and freedom of movement for foreign workers. The Right Wing joined the EU in its original form. The right wing encouraged economic liberalism and were anti-protectionism. Most of what we have now that you don't like is the result of right wing government's implemented free market policies which were not reversed or regulated during Labour's tenure 1997-2010. The Right Wing by 2020 will have been in charge for 28 of the last 41 years. But let's blame the left anyway. And between 1997 and 2010 3.6 million immigrants settled here....that's rather a lot.
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leifandersonshair Newport 04 Feb 16 6.45pm | |
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And over 600,000 between March 2014 and March 2015. That's also rather a lot- under a Tory (albeit coalition) government too! Immigration (much like the NHS) should be completely depoliticized. But, far easier to sling mud about 'it's the fault of the liberal left' or 'its the fault of the big business right'.
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-TUX- Alphabettispaghetti 04 Feb 16 7.04pm | |
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Whether we are 'in' or 'out', the bottom line is that nothing will really change. Fact.
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elgrande bedford 04 Feb 16 7.18pm | |
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Originally posted by -TUX-
Whether we are 'in' or 'out', the bottom line is that nothing will really change. Fact.
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-TUX- Alphabettispaghetti 04 Feb 16 7.24pm | |
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Originally posted by elgrande
Go through what bud? Life will carry on as usual.
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