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jamiemartin721 Reading 01 Feb 16 1.14pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Except that this is England, a Christian country. All this antagonism is just a lot of nonsense and it also deflects from the more serious issues. It is? So we're theocratic rather than democratic, and the power of state is suborned to that of the Church of England? "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 01 Feb 16 1.14pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Except that this is England, a Christian country.

All this antagonism is just a lot of nonsense and it also deflects from the more serious issues.

It is? So we're theocratic rather than democratic, and the power of state is suborned to that of the Church of England?

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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Hrolf The Ganger 01 Feb 16 3.11pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 It is? So we're theocratic rather than democratic, and the power of state is suborned to that of the Church of England? Stop it. This story is about one group of idiots antagonizing another. Clearly the point was to demonstrate the increasing influence of Islam in this country. As if we needed a bunch of morons doing this stuff to tell us what we already know. I've got bored with the whole thing. If the Liberal left want to support these kind of awful religions and their dreadful dogma then good luck with that. Trying to pretend that Islam or any other aggressive religion is "OK" for the sake of claiming the moral high ground just demonstrates how confused liberalism really is. It should be categorised as tolerating the intolerant. Personally I'm sick of hearing about Muslim affairs. It ain't worth posting on it anymore.
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721

It is? So we're theocratic rather than democratic, and the power of state is suborned to that of the Church of England?

Stop it.

This story is about one group of idiots antagonizing another.
Clearly the point was to demonstrate the increasing influence of Islam in this country. As if we needed a bunch of morons doing this stuff to tell us what we already know.
I've got bored with the whole thing. If the Liberal left want to support these kind of awful religions and their dreadful dogma then good luck with that. Trying to pretend that Islam or any other aggressive religion is "OK" for the sake of claiming the moral high ground just demonstrates how confused liberalism really is. It should be categorised as tolerating the intolerant.
Personally I'm sick of hearing about Muslim affairs. It ain't worth posting on it anymore.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 01 Feb 16 4.21pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Stop it. This story is about one group of idiots antagonizing another. Clearly the point was to demonstrate the increasing influence of Islam in this country. As if we needed a bunch of morons doing this stuff to tell us what we already know. I've got bored with the whole thing. If the Liberal left want to support these kind of awful religions and their dreadful dogma then good luck with that. Trying to pretend that Islam or any other aggressive religion is "OK" for the sake of claiming the moral high ground just demonstrates how confused liberalism really is. It should be categorised as tolerating the intolerant. Personally I'm sick of hearing about Muslim affairs. It ain't worth posting on it anymore. Pretty much agree. I don't think, for the most part, that Christianity, Islam or Judaism have too much to offer society anymore in terms of progress - The functional religions tend towards spiritualism and self contained politics. They either seem to have adapted into groups that are pretty much ok with other people, and groups that are throw backs to oppression in the name of 'insert special deities name here'. Just have to look at the Catholic Church in Ireland to see how sick people are of demands of Religion on the politics of individual freedom. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 01 Feb 16 4.21pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Stop it.

Pretty much agree. I don't think, for the most part, that Christianity, Islam or Judaism have too much to offer society anymore in terms of progress - The functional religions tend towards spiritualism and self contained politics.

They either seem to have adapted into groups that are pretty much ok with other people, and groups that are throw backs to oppression in the name of 'insert special deities name here'.

Just have to look at the Catholic Church in Ireland to see how sick people are of demands of Religion on the politics of individual freedom.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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jamiemartin721 Reading 01 Feb 16 4.26pm
Originally posted by Wheniwasayoungboy2 They are the same people who were in Tommy Robinsons old mob. The big neanderthul look a like is his second in command No, but they pretty much have the same followers. The EDL split from the BNP, but Britain First is essentially inspired by Ulster Loyalists. Britain Firsts origins lie in Christian Fundamentalism rather than Far Right and postmodern interpretations of fascism. Intellectually, the groups are fairly easy to separate out, but in terms of membership they tend to be more fluid. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 01 Feb 16 4.26pm

Originally posted by Wheniwasayoungboy2

They are the same people who were in Tommy Robinsons old mob. The big neanderthul look a like is his second in command

No, but they pretty much have the same followers. The EDL split from the BNP, but Britain First is essentially inspired by Ulster Loyalists. Britain Firsts origins lie in Christian Fundamentalism rather than Far Right and postmodern interpretations of fascism.

Intellectually, the groups are fairly easy to separate out, but in terms of membership they tend to be more fluid.

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