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oldcodger 24 Oct 15 9.08am
Quote Jamesrichards8 at 23 Oct 2015 9.29pm Can someone enlighten me on this: why does everyone assume that when we find Alien life, it will be intelligent or even self aware? For only a miniscule fraction of earth's history have there been humans walking the earth. Mostly it's been bacteria or at best quadrupeds. I honestly would like the answer to this question, it's not rhetorical. If you mean when we first find it, i think it's more a hope that it will be advanced. It's the idea from the movies of making contact and communicating that fascinates us. In all likelihood it will be bacteria . As for the Universe as a whole, it's a safe bet that there are thousands of civilisatians more advanced than us. It's sad that we're unlikely to ever know anything about them. 'Us' as in people alive now. Edited by oldcodger (24 Oct 2015 9.08am)
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Can someone enlighten me on this: why does everyone assume that when we find Alien life, it will be intelligent or even self aware? For only a miniscule fraction of earth's history have there been humans walking the earth. Mostly it's been bacteria or at best quadrupeds.
I honestly would like the answer to this question, it's not rhetorical.

If you mean when we first find it, i think it's more a hope that it will be advanced. It's the idea from the movies of making contact and communicating that fascinates us. In all likelihood it will be bacteria .

As for the Universe as a whole, it's a safe bet that there are thousands of civilisatians more advanced than us. It's sad that we're unlikely to ever know anything about them. 'Us' as in people alive now.

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Hrolf The Ganger 24 Oct 15 10.38am
Quote Jamesrichards8 at 23 Oct 2015 9.29pm Can someone enlighten me on this: why does everyone assume that when we find Alien life, it will be intelligent or even self aware? For only a miniscule fraction of earth's history have there been humans walking the earth. Mostly it's been bacteria or at best quadrupeds. I honestly would like the answer to this question, it's not rhetorical. They don't. But if we find it via some sort of communication then obviously it will have to have technology. No one knows the probability of finding life full stop but most, I would imagine, just accept that it is out there somewhere, based on the fact that the Universe is so large and that it must have some degree of uniformity.
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Quote Jamesrichards8 at 23 Oct 2015 9.29pm

They don't.
But if we find it via some sort of communication then obviously it will have to have technology.

No one knows the probability of finding life full stop but most, I would imagine, just accept that it is out there somewhere, based on the fact that the Universe is so large and that it must have some degree of uniformity.

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Hoof Hearted 24 Oct 15 10.44am
Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 24 Oct 2015 10.38am Quote Jamesrichards8 at 23 Oct 2015 9.29pm Can someone enlighten me on this: why does everyone assume that when we find Alien life, it will be intelligent or even self aware? For only a miniscule fraction of earth's history have there been humans walking the earth. Mostly it's been bacteria or at best quadrupeds. I honestly would like the answer to this question, it's not rhetorical. They don't. But if we find it via some sort of communication then obviously it will have to have technology. No one knows the probability of finding life full stop but most, I would imagine, just accept that it is out there somewhere, based on the fact that the Universe is so large and that it must have some degree of uniformity. ... and remember "communication" to us won't necessarily be the same to them. It won't be like 'Independence Day' where Jeff Goldblum was able to hack into the alien's operating systems as they were using Window's 98. Mind you we shouldn't underestimate Bill Gates' marketing reach!
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Quote Jamesrichards8 at 23 Oct 2015 9.29pm

They don't.
But if we find it via some sort of communication then obviously it will have to have technology.

... and remember "communication" to us won't necessarily be the same to them.

It won't be like 'Independence Day' where Jeff Goldblum was able to hack into the alien's operating systems as they were using Window's 98.

Mind you we shouldn't underestimate Bill Gates' marketing reach!

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Hrolf The Ganger 24 Oct 15 1.18pm
Quote Hoof Hearted at 24 Oct 2015 10.44am Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 24 Oct 2015 10.38am Quote Jamesrichards8 at 23 Oct 2015 9.29pm Can someone enlighten me on this: why does everyone assume that when we find Alien life, it will be intelligent or even self aware? For only a miniscule fraction of earth's history have there been humans walking the earth. Mostly it's been bacteria or at best quadrupeds. I honestly would like the answer to this question, it's not rhetorical. They don't. But if we find it via some sort of communication then obviously it will have to have technology. No one knows the probability of finding life full stop but most, I would imagine, just accept that it is out there somewhere, based on the fact that the Universe is so large and that it must have some degree of uniformity. ... and remember "communication" to us won't necessarily be the same to them. It won't be like 'Independence Day' where Jeff Goldblum was able to hack into the alien's operating systems as they were using Window's 98. Mind you we shouldn't underestimate Bill Gates' marketing reach! It probably helps if we stop referencing really bad sci fi movies. SETI has about as much chance of finding aliens as they do winning the lottery. Random searching is next to useless. There has to be something more substantial to investigate. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (24 Oct 2015 1.19pm)
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24 Oct 15 1.18pm

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Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 24 Oct 2015 10.38am

Quote Jamesrichards8 at 23 Oct 2015 9.29pm

They don't.
But if we find it via some sort of communication then obviously it will have to have technology.

... and remember "communication" to us won't necessarily be the same to them.

It won't be like 'Independence Day' where Jeff Goldblum was able to hack into the alien's operating systems as they were using Window's 98.

Mind you we shouldn't underestimate Bill Gates' marketing reach!

It probably helps if we stop referencing really bad sci fi movies.

SETI has about as much chance of finding aliens as they do winning the lottery.
Random searching is next to useless. There has to be something more substantial to investigate.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (24 Oct 2015 1.19pm)

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Hoof Hearted 24 Oct 15 1.27pm
Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 24 Oct 2015 1.18pm Quote Hoof Hearted at 24 Oct 2015 10.44am Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 24 Oct 2015 10.38am Quote Jamesrichards8 at 23 Oct 2015 9.29pm Can someone enlighten me on this: why does everyone assume that when we find Alien life, it will be intelligent or even self aware? For only a miniscule fraction of earth's history have there been humans walking the earth. Mostly it's been bacteria or at best quadrupeds. I honestly would like the answer to this question, it's not rhetorical. They don't. But if we find it via some sort of communication then obviously it will have to have technology. No one knows the probability of finding life full stop but most, I would imagine, just accept that it is out there somewhere, based on the fact that the Universe is so large and that it must have some degree of uniformity. ... and remember "communication" to us won't necessarily be the same to them. It won't be like 'Independence Day' where Jeff Goldblum was able to hack into the alien's operating systems as they were using Window's 98. Mind you we shouldn't underestimate Bill Gates' marketing reach! It probably helps if we stop referencing really bad sci fi movies. SETI has about as much chance of finding aliens as they do winning the lottery. Random searching is next to useless. There has to be something more substantial to investigate. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (24 Oct 2015 1.19pm) Even Aliens are allowed to have a bit of a laugh on a Saturday Hrolf!
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Hoof Hearted 24 Oct 15 1.27pm

Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 24 Oct 2015 1.18pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 24 Oct 2015 10.44am

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Quote Jamesrichards8 at 23 Oct 2015 9.29pm

They don't.
But if we find it via some sort of communication then obviously it will have to have technology.

... and remember "communication" to us won't necessarily be the same to them.

It won't be like 'Independence Day' where Jeff Goldblum was able to hack into the alien's operating systems as they were using Window's 98.

Mind you we shouldn't underestimate Bill Gates' marketing reach!

It probably helps if we stop referencing really bad sci fi movies.

SETI has about as much chance of finding aliens as they do winning the lottery.
Random searching is next to useless. There has to be something more substantial to investigate.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (24 Oct 2015 1.19pm)

Even Aliens are allowed to have a bit of a laugh on a Saturday Hrolf!

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Pikester Worthing 24 Oct 15 2.57pm
Quote twist at 23 Oct 2015 2.35am Its a Dyson Swarm ! Thankfully, its 1500 light years away, which means it will take them a few minutes to get here once they notice us. Hope we don't get sucked into it. You fed me, you bred me, I'll remember your name.
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Worthing 24 Oct 15 2.57pm

Quote twist at 23 Oct 2015 2.35am

Its a Dyson Swarm ! Thankfully, its 1500 light years away, which means it will take them a few minutes to get here once they notice us.

Hope we don't get sucked into it.

You fed me, you bred me, I'll remember your name.

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Stirlingsays 24 Oct 15 2.57pm
Quote Pikester at 24 Oct 2015 2.57pm Quote twist at 23 Oct 2015 2.35am Its a Dyson Swarm ! Thankfully, its 1500 light years away, which means it will take them a few minutes to get here once they notice us. Hope we don't get sucked into it. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Quote twist at 23 Oct 2015 2.35am

Its a Dyson Swarm ! Thankfully, its 1500 light years away, which means it will take them a few minutes to get here once they notice us.

Hope we don't get sucked into it.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Hrolf The Ganger 24 Oct 15 4.34pm
Quote Hoof Hearted at 24 Oct 2015 1.27pm Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 24 Oct 2015 1.18pm Quote Hoof Hearted at 24 Oct 2015 10.44am Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 24 Oct 2015 10.38am Quote Jamesrichards8 at 23 Oct 2015 9.29pm Can someone enlighten me on this: why does everyone assume that when we find Alien life, it will be intelligent or even self aware? For only a miniscule fraction of earth's history have there been humans walking the earth. Mostly it's been bacteria or at best quadrupeds. I honestly would like the answer to this question, it's not rhetorical. They don't. But if we find it via some sort of communication then obviously it will have to have technology. No one knows the probability of finding life full stop but most, I would imagine, just accept that it is out there somewhere, based on the fact that the Universe is so large and that it must have some degree of uniformity. ... and remember "communication" to us won't necessarily be the same to them. It won't be like 'Independence Day' where Jeff Goldblum was able to hack into the alien's operating systems as they were using Window's 98. Mind you we shouldn't underestimate Bill Gates' marketing reach! It probably helps if we stop referencing really bad sci fi movies. SETI has about as much chance of finding aliens as they do winning the lottery. Random searching is next to useless. There has to be something more substantial to investigate. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (24 Oct 2015 1.19pm) Even Aliens are allowed to have a bit of a laugh on a Saturday Hrolf! Klaatu barada nikto a ding dong....
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Quote Jamesrichards8 at 23 Oct 2015 9.29pm

They don't.
But if we find it via some sort of communication then obviously it will have to have technology.

... and remember "communication" to us won't necessarily be the same to them.

It won't be like 'Independence Day' where Jeff Goldblum was able to hack into the alien's operating systems as they were using Window's 98.

Mind you we shouldn't underestimate Bill Gates' marketing reach!

It probably helps if we stop referencing really bad sci fi movies.

SETI has about as much chance of finding aliens as they do winning the lottery.
Random searching is next to useless. There has to be something more substantial to investigate.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (24 Oct 2015 1.19pm)

Even Aliens are allowed to have a bit of a laugh on a Saturday Hrolf!

Klaatu barada nikto a ding dong....

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jamiemartin721 Reading 24 Oct 15 4.45pm
Quote Jamesrichards8 at 23 Oct 2015 9.29pm Can someone enlighten me on this: why does everyone assume that when we find Alien life, it will be intelligent or even self aware? For only a miniscule fraction of earth's history have there been humans walking the earth. Mostly it's been bacteria or at best quadrupeds. I honestly would like the answer to this question, it's not rhetorical. Well yes, the assumption is that it would only 'really be interesting' if it was intelligent and self aware. Of course its actually debatable in the first instance what is actually meant by intelligent and the degree to which humans self awareness exceeds that of other species. Most mammals display intelligence and self awareness when you compensate for humanocentric bias. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Well yes, the assumption is that it would only 'really be interesting' if it was intelligent and self aware. Of course its actually debatable in the first instance what is actually meant by intelligent and the degree to which humans self awareness exceeds that of other species. Most mammals display intelligence and self awareness when you compensate for humanocentric bias.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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Hoof Hearted 25 Oct 15 9.11am
Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 24 Oct 2015 4.34pm Quote Hoof Hearted at 24 Oct 2015 1.27pm Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 24 Oct 2015 1.18pm Quote Hoof Hearted at 24 Oct 2015 10.44am Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 24 Oct 2015 10.38am Quote Jamesrichards8 at 23 Oct 2015 9.29pm Can someone enlighten me on this: why does everyone assume that when we find Alien life, it will be intelligent or even self aware? For only a miniscule fraction of earth's history have there been humans walking the earth. Mostly it's been bacteria or at best quadrupeds. I honestly would like the answer to this question, it's not rhetorical. They don't. But if we find it via some sort of communication then obviously it will have to have technology. No one knows the probability of finding life full stop but most, I would imagine, just accept that it is out there somewhere, based on the fact that the Universe is so large and that it must have some degree of uniformity. ... and remember "communication" to us won't necessarily be the same to them. It won't be like 'Independence Day' where Jeff Goldblum was able to hack into the alien's operating systems as they were using Window's 98. Mind you we shouldn't underestimate Bill Gates' marketing reach! It probably helps if we stop referencing really bad sci fi movies. SETI has about as much chance of finding aliens as they do winning the lottery. Random searching is next to useless. There has to be something more substantial to investigate. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (24 Oct 2015 1.19pm) Even Aliens are allowed to have a bit of a laugh on a Saturday Hrolf! Klaatu barada nikto a ding dong.... Ahhh.... The faint smell of Tuareg fires Boff......
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Hoof Hearted 25 Oct 15 9.11am

Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 24 Oct 2015 4.34pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 24 Oct 2015 1.27pm

Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 24 Oct 2015 1.18pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 24 Oct 2015 10.44am

Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 24 Oct 2015 10.38am

Quote Jamesrichards8 at 23 Oct 2015 9.29pm

They don't.
But if we find it via some sort of communication then obviously it will have to have technology.

... and remember "communication" to us won't necessarily be the same to them.

It won't be like 'Independence Day' where Jeff Goldblum was able to hack into the alien's operating systems as they were using Window's 98.

Mind you we shouldn't underestimate Bill Gates' marketing reach!

It probably helps if we stop referencing really bad sci fi movies.

SETI has about as much chance of finding aliens as they do winning the lottery.
Random searching is next to useless. There has to be something more substantial to investigate.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (24 Oct 2015 1.19pm)

Even Aliens are allowed to have a bit of a laugh on a Saturday Hrolf!

Klaatu barada nikto a ding dong....

Ahhh.... The faint smell of Tuareg fires Boff......

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