Quote fed up eagle at 03 Aug 2015 11.00pm

Quote nickgusset at 03 Aug 2015 10.47pm

Quote -TUX- at 03 Aug 2015 10.21pm

Quote serial thriller at 03 Aug 2015 9.49pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 02 Aug 2015 9.18am

Quote legaleagle at 01 Aug 2015 2.04pm

Quote leggedstruggle at 01 Aug 2015 1.15pm

Quote legaleagle at 01 Aug 2015 1.08pm

More pertinently perhaps in your case,is there anything at all about immigration that you consider is not a downside and is there anything at all about economic migrants or refugees that could make them acceptable people to live in a house you occupied?

If so,what?

No and no. Now answer my questions.

No thanks.People like "Hoof" make points that are not unreasonable,though I may disagree with some,and query why he exaggerates others and leaves additional factors out of his analysis.

In contrast,people like you and derben are fundamentally lacking in anything I would want to dignify with an ongoing engagement, though to your credit you are unabashed above in confirming the obvious regarding the driving forces for your particular analysis of the world.Just an opinion.

Thanks legal... I'll take that as some sort of agreement?

You are right I did leave out important factors - I completely underestimated the amount of building required to cope with our increased population after rampant immigration comes to fruition:-

As previously stated we will need hundreds of thousands new homes, schools, GP surgeries and hospitals.

What I omitted was new factories, offices, supermarkets, distribution centres, warehouses, car parks, train stations, places of entertainment and presumably bigger and bigger mosques?

After all these new arrivals will have to work, eat, be entertained and pray to Allah.

I ask you, or anyone else advocating wholesale immigration to the UK........ where is all the space to accommodate these people and the infrastructure needed to allow them to go about living their new daily lives?

I've already discounted the suggestion made by Serial Thriller who mistakenly believed we had 97% of UK land to build on - can anyone answer this simple question?

Incredible. When did I ever say that? I did say that only 3% of UK land is built on, but you are completely twisting my words here as I've never, ever said that the rest was free to be built on.

What I have pointed out, and what I see you've conveniently ignored, is the fact that we have an estimated 200 000 sites for property on brown belt land available in this country - easily enough not just to house our own homeless but those in Calais.

I also read something interesting today which shows how hypocritical we are when it comes to housing. Apparently Herefordshire has built around 40 broiler units (chicken houses) accommodating thousands of chickens each, in the last 12 months. That's one county, in one year, building homes for what must be hundreds of thousands of chickens, and yet we're having this ludicrous idea bandied around that we can't house a few thousand migrants.

It's around 9%. More land is currently utilised for golf courses than housing in the UK.
I love golf but i love a roof more.

[Link]
There are 600,000 empty properties in this country which is disgraceful. Either have a f***ing great unoccupancy tax but also cap rents to a manageable level. No more than a third of means tested income. Or compulsory purchase them.

When I say this, I am not advocating giving these properties to all of those at Calais, it would create mayhem!

We need to address the homeless issue. At the moment in some boroughs it is illegal to sleep in the street. That's not really solving the problem is it?

Those empty properties should go to homeless British people and people trying to get on the property ladder for the first time, not some foreign thief who wants to rob us blind.

I agree with you but not your sentiments. You are tarring every one of those at calais. Yes there are chancers, but there are also others who are seperated from their partners who have kids and british citizenship.

But yes sort out british homelessness first. It's f***ing ludicrous that this lot in power think you can just make something illegal and it'll go away...

I was going to suggest that some of the houses should be given to a Peruvian Quinoa co-operative

Tax the f*** out of the f***ers with empty buildings. No social responsibility - any of them.

Quote fed up eagle at 03 Aug 2015 11.00pm

Quote nickgusset at 03 Aug 2015 10.47pm

Quote -TUX- at 03 Aug 2015 10.21pm

Quote serial thriller at 03 Aug 2015 9.49pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 02 Aug 2015 9.18am

Quote legaleagle at 01 Aug 2015 2.04pm

Quote leggedstruggle at 01 Aug 2015 1.15pm

Quote legaleagle at 01 Aug 2015 1.08pm

More pertinently perhaps in your case,is there anything at all about immigration that you consider is not a downside and is there anything at all about economic migrants or refugees that could make them acceptable people to live in a house you occupied?

If so,what?

No and no. Now answer my questions.

No thanks.People like "Hoof" make points that are not unreasonable,though I may disagree with some,and query why he exaggerates others and leaves additional factors out of his analysis.

In contrast,people like you and derben are fundamentally lacking in anything I would want to dignify with an ongoing engagement, though to your credit you are unabashed above in confirming the obvious regarding the driving forces for your particular analysis of the world.Just an opinion.

Thanks legal... I'll take that as some sort of agreement?

You are right I did leave out important factors - I completely underestimated the amount of building required to cope with our increased population after rampant immigration comes to fruition:-

As previously stated we will need hundreds of thousands new homes, schools, GP surgeries and hospitals.

What I omitted was new factories, offices, supermarkets, distribution centres, warehouses, car parks, train stations, places of entertainment and presumably bigger and bigger mosques?

After all these new arrivals will have to work, eat, be entertained and pray to Allah.

I ask you, or anyone else advocating wholesale immigration to the UK........ where is all the space to accommodate these people and the infrastructure needed to allow them to go about living their new daily lives?

I've already discounted the suggestion made by Serial Thriller who mistakenly believed we had 97% of UK land to build on - can anyone answer this simple question?

Incredible. When did I ever say that? I did say that only 3% of UK land is built on, but you are completely twisting my words here as I've never, ever said that the rest was free to be built on.

What I have pointed out, and what I see you've conveniently ignored, is the fact that we have an estimated 200 000 sites for property on brown belt land available in this country - easily enough not just to house our own homeless but those in Calais.

I also read something interesting today which shows how hypocritical we are when it comes to housing. Apparently Herefordshire has built around 40 broiler units (chicken houses) accommodating thousands of chickens each, in the last 12 months. That's one county, in one year, building homes for what must be hundreds of thousands of chickens, and yet we're having this ludicrous idea bandied around that we can't house a few thousand migrants.

It's around 9%. More land is currently utilised for golf courses than housing in the UK.
I love golf but i love a roof more.

[Link]
There are 600,000 empty properties in this country which is disgraceful. Either have a f***ing great unoccupancy tax but also cap rents to a manageable level. No more than a third of means tested income. Or compulsory purchase them.

When I say this, I am not advocating giving these properties to all of those at Calais, it would create mayhem!

We need to address the homeless issue. At the moment in some boroughs it is illegal to sleep in the street. That's not really solving the problem is it?

Those empty properties should go to homeless British people and people trying to get on the property ladder for the first time, not some foreign thief who wants to rob us blind.

I agree with you but not your sentiments. You are tarring every one of those at calais. Yes there are chancers, but there are also others who are seperated from their partners who have kids and british citizenship.

But yes sort out british homelessness first. It's f***ing ludicrous that this lot in power think you can just make something illegal and it'll go away...

I was going to suggest that some of the houses should be given to a Peruvian Quinoa co-operative

Tax the f*** out of the f***ers with empty buildings. No social responsibility - any of them.

Quote fed up eagle at 03 Aug 2015 11.00pm

Quote nickgusset at 03 Aug 2015 10.47pm

Quote -TUX- at 03 Aug 2015 10.21pm

Quote serial thriller at 03 Aug 2015 9.49pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 02 Aug 2015 9.18am

Quote legaleagle at 01 Aug 2015 2.04pm

Quote leggedstruggle at 01 Aug 2015 1.15pm

Quote legaleagle at 01 Aug 2015 1.08pm

More pertinently perhaps in your case,is there anything at all about immigration that you consider is not a downside and is there anything at all about economic migrants or refugees that could make them acceptable people to live in a house you occupied?

If so,what?

No and no. Now answer my questions.

No thanks.People like "Hoof" make points that are not unreasonable,though I may disagree with some,and query why he exaggerates others and leaves additional factors out of his analysis.

In contrast,people like you and derben are fundamentally lacking in anything I would want to dignify with an ongoing engagement, though to your credit you are unabashed above in confirming the obvious regarding the driving forces for your particular analysis of the world.Just an opinion.

Thanks legal... I'll take that as some sort of agreement?

You are right I did leave out important factors - I completely underestimated the amount of building required to cope with our increased population after rampant immigration comes to fruition:-

As previously stated we will need hundreds of thousands new homes, schools, GP surgeries and hospitals.

What I omitted was new factories, offices, supermarkets, distribution centres, warehouses, car parks, train stations, places of entertainment and presumably bigger and bigger mosques?

After all these new arrivals will have to work, eat, be entertained and pray to Allah.

I ask you, or anyone else advocating wholesale immigration to the UK........ where is all the space to accommodate these people and the infrastructure needed to allow them to go about living their new daily lives?

I've already discounted the suggestion made by Serial Thriller who mistakenly believed we had 97% of UK land to build on - can anyone answer this simple question?

Incredible. When did I ever say that? I did say that only 3% of UK land is built on, but you are completely twisting my words here as I've never, ever said that the rest was free to be built on.

What I have pointed out, and what I see you've conveniently ignored, is the fact that we have an estimated 200 000 sites for property on brown belt land available in this country - easily enough not just to house our own homeless but those in Calais.

I also read something interesting today which shows how hypocritical we are when it comes to housing. Apparently Herefordshire has built around 40 broiler units (chicken houses) accommodating thousands of chickens each, in the last 12 months. That's one county, in one year, building homes for what must be hundreds of thousands of chickens, and yet we're having this ludicrous idea bandied around that we can't house a few thousand migrants.

It's around 9%. More land is currently utilised for golf courses than housing in the UK.
I love golf but i love a roof more.

[Link]
There are 600,000 empty properties in this country which is disgraceful. Either have a f***ing great unoccupancy tax but also cap rents to a manageable level. No more than a third of means tested income. Or compulsory purchase them.

When I say this, I am not advocating giving these properties to all of those at Calais, it would create mayhem!

We need to address the homeless issue. At the moment in some boroughs it is illegal to sleep in the street. That's not really solving the problem is it?

Those empty properties should go to homeless British people and people trying to get on the property ladder for the first time, not some foreign thief who wants to rob us blind.

I agree with you but not your sentiments. You are tarring every one of those at calais. Yes there are chancers, but there are also others who are seperated from their partners who have kids and british citizenship.

But yes sort out british homelessness first. It's f***ing ludicrous that this lot in power think you can just make something illegal and it'll go away...

I was going to suggest that some of the houses should be given to a Peruvian Quinoa co-operative

Tax the f*** out of the f***ers with empty buildings. No social responsibility - any of them.

Quote fed up eagle at 03 Aug 2015 11.00pm

Quote nickgusset at 03 Aug 2015 10.47pm

Quote -TUX- at 03 Aug 2015 10.21pm

Quote serial thriller at 03 Aug 2015 9.49pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 02 Aug 2015 9.18am

Quote legaleagle at 01 Aug 2015 2.04pm

Quote leggedstruggle at 01 Aug 2015 1.15pm

Quote legaleagle at 01 Aug 2015 1.08pm

More pertinently perhaps in your case,is there anything at all about immigration that you consider is not a downside and is there anything at all about economic migrants or refugees that could make them acceptable people to live in a house you occupied?

If so,what?

No and no. Now answer my questions.

No thanks.People like "Hoof" make points that are not unreasonable,though I may disagree with some,and query why he exaggerates others and leaves additional factors out of his analysis.

In contrast,people like you and derben are fundamentally lacking in anything I would want to dignify with an ongoing engagement, though to your credit you are unabashed above in confirming the obvious regarding the driving forces for your particular analysis of the world.Just an opinion.

Thanks legal... I'll take that as some sort of agreement?

You are right I did leave out important factors - I completely underestimated the amount of building required to cope with our increased population after rampant immigration comes to fruition:-

As previously stated we will need hundreds of thousands new homes, schools, GP surgeries and hospitals.

What I omitted was new factories, offices, supermarkets, distribution centres, warehouses, car parks, train stations, places of entertainment and presumably bigger and bigger mosques?

After all these new arrivals will have to work, eat, be entertained and pray to Allah.

I ask you, or anyone else advocating wholesale immigration to the UK........ where is all the space to accommodate these people and the infrastructure needed to allow them to go about living their new daily lives?

I've already discounted the suggestion made by Serial Thriller who mistakenly believed we had 97% of UK land to build on - can anyone answer this simple question?

Incredible. When did I ever say that? I did say that only 3% of UK land is built on, but you are completely twisting my words here as I've never, ever said that the rest was free to be built on.

What I have pointed out, and what I see you've conveniently ignored, is the fact that we have an estimated 200 000 sites for property on brown belt land available in this country - easily enough not just to house our own homeless but those in Calais.

I also read something interesting today which shows how hypocritical we are when it comes to housing. Apparently Herefordshire has built around 40 broiler units (chicken houses) accommodating thousands of chickens each, in the last 12 months. That's one county, in one year, building homes for what must be hundreds of thousands of chickens, and yet we're having this ludicrous idea bandied around that we can't house a few thousand migrants.

It's around 9%. More land is currently utilised for golf courses than housing in the UK.
I love golf but i love a roof more.

[Link]
There are 600,000 empty properties in this country which is disgraceful. Either have a f***ing great unoccupancy tax but also cap rents to a manageable level. No more than a third of means tested income. Or compulsory purchase them.

When I say this, I am not advocating giving these properties to all of those at Calais, it would create mayhem!

We need to address the homeless issue. At the moment in some boroughs it is illegal to sleep in the street. That's not really solving the problem is it?

Those empty properties should go to homeless British people and people trying to get on the property ladder for the first time, not some foreign thief who wants to rob us blind.

I agree with you but not your sentiments. You are tarring every one of those at calais. Yes there are chancers, but there are also others who are seperated from their partners who have kids and british citizenship.

But yes sort out british homelessness first. It's f***ing ludicrous that this lot in power think you can just make something illegal and it'll go away...

I was going to suggest that some of the houses should be given to a Peruvian Quinoa co-operative

Tax the f*** out of the f***ers with empty buildings. No social responsibility - any of them.

Quote fed up eagle at 03 Aug 2015 11.00pm

Quote nickgusset at 03 Aug 2015 10.47pm

Quote -TUX- at 03 Aug 2015 10.21pm

Quote serial thriller at 03 Aug 2015 9.49pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 02 Aug 2015 9.18am

Quote legaleagle at 01 Aug 2015 2.04pm

Quote leggedstruggle at 01 Aug 2015 1.15pm

Quote legaleagle at 01 Aug 2015 1.08pm

More pertinently perhaps in your case,is there anything at all about immigration that you consider is not a downside and is there anything at all about economic migrants or refugees that could make them acceptable people to live in a house you occupied?

If so,what?

No and no. Now answer my questions.

No thanks.People like "Hoof" make points that are not unreasonable,though I may disagree with some,and query why he exaggerates others and leaves additional factors out of his analysis.

In contrast,people like you and derben are fundamentally lacking in anything I would want to dignify with an ongoing engagement, though to your credit you are unabashed above in confirming the obvious regarding the driving forces for your particular analysis of the world.Just an opinion.

Thanks legal... I'll take that as some sort of agreement?

You are right I did leave out important factors - I completely underestimated the amount of building required to cope with our increased population after rampant immigration comes to fruition:-

As previously stated we will need hundreds of thousands new homes, schools, GP surgeries and hospitals.

What I omitted was new factories, offices, supermarkets, distribution centres, warehouses, car parks, train stations, places of entertainment and presumably bigger and bigger mosques?

After all these new arrivals will have to work, eat, be entertained and pray to Allah.

I ask you, or anyone else advocating wholesale immigration to the UK........ where is all the space to accommodate these people and the infrastructure needed to allow them to go about living their new daily lives?

I've already discounted the suggestion made by Serial Thriller who mistakenly believed we had 97% of UK land to build on - can anyone answer this simple question?

Incredible. When did I ever say that? I did say that only 3% of UK land is built on, but you are completely twisting my words here as I've never, ever said that the rest was free to be built on.

What I have pointed out, and what I see you've conveniently ignored, is the fact that we have an estimated 200 000 sites for property on brown belt land available in this country - easily enough not just to house our own homeless but those in Calais.

I also read something interesting today which shows how hypocritical we are when it comes to housing. Apparently Herefordshire has built around 40 broiler units (chicken houses) accommodating thousands of chickens each, in the last 12 months. That's one county, in one year, building homes for what must be hundreds of thousands of chickens, and yet we're having this ludicrous idea bandied around that we can't house a few thousand migrants.

It's around 9%. More land is currently utilised for golf courses than housing in the UK.
I love golf but i love a roof more.

[Link]
There are 600,000 empty properties in this country which is disgraceful. Either have a f***ing great unoccupancy tax but also cap rents to a manageable level. No more than a third of means tested income. Or compulsory purchase them.

When I say this, I am not advocating giving these properties to all of those at Calais, it would create mayhem!

We need to address the homeless issue. At the moment in some boroughs it is illegal to sleep in the street. That's not really solving the problem is it?

Those empty properties should go to homeless British people and people trying to get on the property ladder for the first time, not some foreign thief who wants to rob us blind.

I agree with you but not your sentiments. You are tarring every one of those at calais. Yes there are chancers, but there are also others who are seperated from their partners who have kids and british citizenship.

But yes sort out british homelessness first. It's f***ing ludicrous that this lot in power think you can just make something illegal and it'll go away...

I was going to suggest that some of the houses should be given to a Peruvian Quinoa co-operative

Tax the f*** out of the f***ers with empty buildings. No social responsibility - any of them.

Quote fed up eagle at 03 Aug 2015 11.00pm

Quote nickgusset at 03 Aug 2015 10.47pm

Quote -TUX- at 03 Aug 2015 10.21pm

Quote serial thriller at 03 Aug 2015 9.49pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 02 Aug 2015 9.18am

Quote legaleagle at 01 Aug 2015 2.04pm

Quote leggedstruggle at 01 Aug 2015 1.15pm

Quote legaleagle at 01 Aug 2015 1.08pm

More pertinently perhaps in your case,is there anything at all about immigration that you consider is not a downside and is there anything at all about economic migrants or refugees that could make them acceptable people to live in a house you occupied?

If so,what?

No and no. Now answer my questions.

No thanks.People like "Hoof" make points that are not unreasonable,though I may disagree with some,and query why he exaggerates others and leaves additional factors out of his analysis.

In contrast,people like you and derben are fundamentally lacking in anything I would want to dignify with an ongoing engagement, though to your credit you are unabashed above in confirming the obvious regarding the driving forces for your particular analysis of the world.Just an opinion.

Thanks legal... I'll take that as some sort of agreement?

You are right I did leave out important factors - I completely underestimated the amount of building required to cope with our increased population after rampant immigration comes to fruition:-

As previously stated we will need hundreds of thousands new homes, schools, GP surgeries and hospitals.

What I omitted was new factories, offices, supermarkets, distribution centres, warehouses, car parks, train stations, places of entertainment and presumably bigger and bigger mosques?

After all these new arrivals will have to work, eat, be entertained and pray to Allah.

I ask you, or anyone else advocating wholesale immigration to the UK........ where is all the space to accommodate these people and the infrastructure needed to allow them to go about living their new daily lives?

I've already discounted the suggestion made by Serial Thriller who mistakenly believed we had 97% of UK land to build on - can anyone answer this simple question?

Incredible. When did I ever say that? I did say that only 3% of UK land is built on, but you are completely twisting my words here as I've never, ever said that the rest was free to be built on.

What I have pointed out, and what I see you've conveniently ignored, is the fact that we have an estimated 200 000 sites for property on brown belt land available in this country - easily enough not just to house our own homeless but those in Calais.

I also read something interesting today which shows how hypocritical we are when it comes to housing. Apparently Herefordshire has built around 40 broiler units (chicken houses) accommodating thousands of chickens each, in the last 12 months. That's one county, in one year, building homes for what must be hundreds of thousands of chickens, and yet we're having this ludicrous idea bandied around that we can't house a few thousand migrants.

It's around 9%. More land is currently utilised for golf courses than housing in the UK.
I love golf but i love a roof more.

[Link]
There are 600,000 empty properties in this country which is disgraceful. Either have a f***ing great unoccupancy tax but also cap rents to a manageable level. No more than a third of means tested income. Or compulsory purchase them.

When I say this, I am not advocating giving these properties to all of those at Calais, it would create mayhem!

We need to address the homeless issue. At the moment in some boroughs it is illegal to sleep in the street. That's not really solving the problem is it?

Those empty properties should go to homeless British people and people trying to get on the property ladder for the first time, not some foreign thief who wants to rob us blind.

I agree with you but not your sentiments. You are tarring every one of those at calais. Yes there are chancers, but there are also others who are seperated from their partners who have kids and british citizenship.

But yes sort out british homelessness first. It's f***ing ludicrous that this lot in power think you can just make something illegal and it'll go away...

I was going to suggest that some of the houses should be given to a Peruvian Quinoa co-operative

Tax the f*** out of the f***ers with empty buildings. No social responsibility - any of them.

Quote fed up eagle at 03 Aug 2015 11.00pm

Quote nickgusset at 03 Aug 2015 10.47pm

Quote -TUX- at 03 Aug 2015 10.21pm

Quote serial thriller at 03 Aug 2015 9.49pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 02 Aug 2015 9.18am

Quote legaleagle at 01 Aug 2015 2.04pm

Quote leggedstruggle at 01 Aug 2015 1.15pm

Quote legaleagle at 01 Aug 2015 1.08pm

More pertinently perhaps in your case,is there anything at all about immigration that you consider is not a downside and is there anything at all about economic migrants or refugees that could make them acceptable people to live in a house you occupied?

If so,what?

No and no. Now answer my questions.

No thanks.People like "Hoof" make points that are not unreasonable,though I may disagree with some,and query why he exaggerates others and leaves additional factors out of his analysis.

In contrast,people like you and derben are fundamentally lacking in anything I would want to dignify with an ongoing engagement, though to your credit you are unabashed above in confirming the obvious regarding the driving forces for your particular analysis of the world.Just an opinion.

Thanks legal... I'll take that as some sort of agreement?

You are right I did leave out important factors - I completely underestimated the amount of building required to cope with our increased population after rampant immigration comes to fruition:-

As previously stated we will need hundreds of thousands new homes, schools, GP surgeries and hospitals.

What I omitted was new factories, offices, supermarkets, distribution centres, warehouses, car parks, train stations, places of entertainment and presumably bigger and bigger mosques?

After all these new arrivals will have to work, eat, be entertained and pray to Allah.

I ask you, or anyone else advocating wholesale immigration to the UK........ where is all the space to accommodate these people and the infrastructure needed to allow them to go about living their new daily lives?

I've already discounted the suggestion made by Serial Thriller who mistakenly believed we had 97% of UK land to build on - can anyone answer this simple question?

Incredible. When did I ever say that? I did say that only 3% of UK land is built on, but you are completely twisting my words here as I've never, ever said that the rest was free to be built on.

What I have pointed out, and what I see you've conveniently ignored, is the fact that we have an estimated 200 000 sites for property on brown belt land available in this country - easily enough not just to house our own homeless but those in Calais.

I also read something interesting today which shows how hypocritical we are when it comes to housing. Apparently Herefordshire has built around 40 broiler units (chicken houses) accommodating thousands of chickens each, in the last 12 months. That's one county, in one year, building homes for what must be hundreds of thousands of chickens, and yet we're having this ludicrous idea bandied around that we can't house a few thousand migrants.

It's around 9%. More land is currently utilised for golf courses than housing in the UK.
I love golf but i love a roof more.

[Link]
There are 600,000 empty properties in this country which is disgraceful. Either have a f***ing great unoccupancy tax but also cap rents to a manageable level. No more than a third of means tested income. Or compulsory purchase them.

When I say this, I am not advocating giving these properties to all of those at Calais, it would create mayhem!

We need to address the homeless issue. At the moment in some boroughs it is illegal to sleep in the street. That's not really solving the problem is it?

Those empty properties should go to homeless British people and people trying to get on the property ladder for the first time, not some foreign thief who wants to rob us blind.

I agree with you but not your sentiments. You are tarring every one of those at calais. Yes there are chancers, but there are also others who are seperated from their partners who have kids and british citizenship.

But yes sort out british homelessness first. It's f***ing ludicrous that this lot in power think you can just make something illegal and it'll go away...

I was going to suggest that some of the houses should be given to a Peruvian Quinoa co-operative

Tax the f*** out of the f***ers with empty buildings. No social responsibility - any of them.

Quote fed up eagle at 03 Aug 2015 11.00pm

Quote nickgusset at 03 Aug 2015 10.47pm

Quote -TUX- at 03 Aug 2015 10.21pm

Quote serial thriller at 03 Aug 2015 9.49pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 02 Aug 2015 9.18am

Quote legaleagle at 01 Aug 2015 2.04pm

Quote leggedstruggle at 01 Aug 2015 1.15pm

Quote legaleagle at 01 Aug 2015 1.08pm

More pertinently perhaps in your case,is there anything at all about immigration that you consider is not a downside and is there anything at all about economic migrants or refugees that could make them acceptable people to live in a house you occupied?

If so,what?

No and no. Now answer my questions.

No thanks.People like "Hoof" make points that are not unreasonable,though I may disagree with some,and query why he exaggerates others and leaves additional factors out of his analysis.

In contrast,people like you and derben are fundamentally lacking in anything I would want to dignify with an ongoing engagement, though to your credit you are unabashed above in confirming the obvious regarding the driving forces for your particular analysis of the world.Just an opinion.

Thanks legal... I'll take that as some sort of agreement?

You are right I did leave out important factors - I completely underestimated the amount of building required to cope with our increased population after rampant immigration comes to fruition:-

As previously stated we will need hundreds of thousands new homes, schools, GP surgeries and hospitals.

What I omitted was new factories, offices, supermarkets, distribution centres, warehouses, car parks, train stations, places of entertainment and presumably bigger and bigger mosques?

After all these new arrivals will have to work, eat, be entertained and pray to Allah.

I ask you, or anyone else advocating wholesale immigration to the UK........ where is all the space to accommodate these people and the infrastructure needed to allow them to go about living their new daily lives?

I've already discounted the suggestion made by Serial Thriller who mistakenly believed we had 97% of UK land to build on - can anyone answer this simple question?

Incredible. When did I ever say that? I did say that only 3% of UK land is built on, but you are completely twisting my words here as I've never, ever said that the rest was free to be built on.

What I have pointed out, and what I see you've conveniently ignored, is the fact that we have an estimated 200 000 sites for property on brown belt land available in this country - easily enough not just to house our own homeless but those in Calais.

I also read something interesting today which shows how hypocritical we are when it comes to housing. Apparently Herefordshire has built around 40 broiler units (chicken houses) accommodating thousands of chickens each, in the last 12 months. That's one county, in one year, building homes for what must be hundreds of thousands of chickens, and yet we're having this ludicrous idea bandied around that we can't house a few thousand migrants.

It's around 9%. More land is currently utilised for golf courses than housing in the UK.
I love golf but i love a roof more.

[Link]
There are 600,000 empty properties in this country which is disgraceful. Either have a f***ing great unoccupancy tax but also cap rents to a manageable level. No more than a third of means tested income. Or compulsory purchase them.

When I say this, I am not advocating giving these properties to all of those at Calais, it would create mayhem!

We need to address the homeless issue. At the moment in some boroughs it is illegal to sleep in the street. That's not really solving the problem is it?

Those empty properties should go to homeless British people and people trying to get on the property ladder for the first time, not some foreign thief who wants to rob us blind.

I agree with you but not your sentiments. You are tarring every one of those at calais. Yes there are chancers, but there are also others who are seperated from their partners who have kids and british citizenship.

But yes sort out british homelessness first. It's f***ing ludicrous that this lot in power think you can just make something illegal and it'll go away...

I was going to suggest that some of the houses should be given to a Peruvian Quinoa co-operative

Tax the f*** out of the f***ers with empty buildings. No social responsibility - any of them.

Quote fed up eagle at 03 Aug 2015 11.00pm

Quote nickgusset at 03 Aug 2015 10.47pm

Quote -TUX- at 03 Aug 2015 10.21pm

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More pertinently perhaps in your case,is there anything at all about immigration that you consider is not a downside and is there anything at all about economic migrants or refugees that could make them acceptable people to live in a house you occupied?

If so,what?

No and no. Now answer my questions.

No thanks.People like "Hoof" make points that are not unreasonable,though I may disagree with some,and query why he exaggerates others and leaves additional factors out of his analysis.

In contrast,people like you and derben are fundamentally lacking in anything I would want to dignify with an ongoing engagement, though to your credit you are unabashed above in confirming the obvious regarding the driving forces for your particular analysis of the world.Just an opinion.

Thanks legal... I'll take that as some sort of agreement?

You are right I did leave out important factors - I completely underestimated the amount of building required to cope with our increased population after rampant immigration comes to fruition:-

As previously stated we will need hundreds of thousands new homes, schools, GP surgeries and hospitals.

What I omitted was new factories, offices, supermarkets, distribution centres, warehouses, car parks, train stations, places of entertainment and presumably bigger and bigger mosques?

After all these new arrivals will have to work, eat, be entertained and pray to Allah.

I ask you, or anyone else advocating wholesale immigration to the UK........ where is all the space to accommodate these people and the infrastructure needed to allow them to go about living their new daily lives?

I've already discounted the suggestion made by Serial Thriller who mistakenly believed we had 97% of UK land to build on - can anyone answer this simple question?

Incredible. When did I ever say that? I did say that only 3% of UK land is built on, but you are completely twisting my words here as I've never, ever said that the rest was free to be built on.

What I have pointed out, and what I see you've conveniently ignored, is the fact that we have an estimated 200 000 sites for property on brown belt land available in this country - easily enough not just to house our own homeless but those in Calais.

I also read something interesting today which shows how hypocritical we are when it comes to housing. Apparently Herefordshire has built around 40 broiler units (chicken houses) accommodating thousands of chickens each, in the last 12 months. That's one county, in one year, building homes for what must be hundreds of thousands of chickens, and yet we're having this ludicrous idea bandied around that we can't house a few thousand migrants.

It's around 9%. More land is currently utilised for golf courses than housing in the UK.
I love golf but i love a roof more.

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There are 600,000 empty properties in this country which is disgraceful. Either have a f***ing great unoccupancy tax but also cap rents to a manageable level. No more than a third of means tested income. Or compulsory purchase them.

When I say this, I am not advocating giving these properties to all of those at Calais, it would create mayhem!

We need to address the homeless issue. At the moment in some boroughs it is illegal to sleep in the street. That's not really solving the problem is it?

Those empty properties should go to homeless British people and people trying to get on the property ladder for the first time, not some foreign thief who wants to rob us blind.

I agree with you but not your sentiments. You are tarring every one of those at calais. Yes there are chancers, but there are also others who are seperated from their partners who have kids and british citizenship.

But yes sort out british homelessness first. It's f***ing ludicrous that this lot in power think you can just make something illegal and it'll go away...

I was going to suggest that some of the houses should be given to a Peruvian Quinoa co-operative

Tax the f*** out of the f***ers with empty buildings. No social responsibility - any of them.

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Quote leggedstruggle at 01 Aug 2015 1.15pm

Quote legaleagle at 01 Aug 2015 1.08pm

More pertinently perhaps in your case,is there anything at all about immigration that you consider is not a downside and is there anything at all about economic migrants or refugees that could make them acceptable people to live in a house you occupied?

If so,what?

No and no. Now answer my questions.

No thanks.People like "Hoof" make points that are not unreasonable,though I may disagree with some,and query why he exaggerates others and leaves additional factors out of his analysis.

In contrast,people like you and derben are fundamentally lacking in anything I would want to dignify with an ongoing engagement, though to your credit you are unabashed above in confirming the obvious regarding the driving forces for your particular analysis of the world.Just an opinion.

Thanks legal... I'll take that as some sort of agreement?

You are right I did leave out important factors - I completely underestimated the amount of building required to cope with our increased population after rampant immigration comes to fruition:-

As previously stated we will need hundreds of thousands new homes, schools, GP surgeries and hospitals.

What I omitted was new factories, offices, supermarkets, distribution centres, warehouses, car parks, train stations, places of entertainment and presumably bigger and bigger mosques?

After all these new arrivals will have to work, eat, be entertained and pray to Allah.

I ask you, or anyone else advocating wholesale immigration to the UK........ where is all the space to accommodate these people and the infrastructure needed to allow them to go about living their new daily lives?

I've already discounted the suggestion made by Serial Thriller who mistakenly believed we had 97% of UK land to build on - can anyone answer this simple question?

Incredible. When did I ever say that? I did say that only 3% of UK land is built on, but you are completely twisting my words here as I've never, ever said that the rest was free to be built on.

What I have pointed out, and what I see you've conveniently ignored, is the fact that we have an estimated 200 000 sites for property on brown belt land available in this country - easily enough not just to house our own homeless but those in Calais.

I also read something interesting today which shows how hypocritical we are when it comes to housing. Apparently Herefordshire has built around 40 broiler units (chicken houses) accommodating thousands of chickens each, in the last 12 months. That's one county, in one year, building homes for what must be hundreds of thousands of chickens, and yet we're having this ludicrous idea bandied around that we can't house a few thousand migrants.

It's around 9%. More land is currently utilised for golf courses than housing in the UK.
I love golf but i love a roof more.

[Link]
There are 600,000 empty properties in this country which is disgraceful. Either have a f***ing great unoccupancy tax but also cap rents to a manageable level. No more than a third of means tested income. Or compulsory purchase them.

When I say this, I am not advocating giving these properties to all of those at Calais, it would create mayhem!

We need to address the homeless issue. At the moment in some boroughs it is illegal to sleep in the street. That's not really solving the problem is it?

Those empty properties should go to homeless British people and people trying to get on the property ladder for the first time, not some foreign thief who wants to rob us blind.

I agree with you but not your sentiments. You are tarring every one of those at calais. Yes there are chancers, but there are also others who are seperated from their partners who have kids and british citizenship.

But yes sort out british homelessness first. It's f***ing ludicrous that this lot in power think you can just make something illegal and it'll go away...

I was going to suggest that some of the houses should be given to a Peruvian Quinoa co-operative

Tax the f*** out of the f***ers with empty buildings. No social responsibility - any of them.

Quote fed up eagle at 03 Aug 2015 11.00pm

Quote nickgusset at 03 Aug 2015 10.47pm

Quote -TUX- at 03 Aug 2015 10.21pm

Quote serial thriller at 03 Aug 2015 9.49pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 02 Aug 2015 9.18am

Quote legaleagle at 01 Aug 2015 2.04pm

Quote leggedstruggle at 01 Aug 2015 1.15pm

Quote legaleagle at 01 Aug 2015 1.08pm

More pertinently perhaps in your case,is there anything at all about immigration that you consider is not a downside and is there anything at all about economic migrants or refugees that could make them acceptable people to live in a house you occupied?

If so,what?<NOW STOP THIS THREAD>before it starts getting silly

No and no. Now answer my questions.

No thanks.People like "Hoof" make points that are not unreasonable,though I may disagree with some,and query why he exaggerates others and leaves additional factors out of his analysis.

In contrast,people like you and derben are fundamentally lacking in anything I would want to dignify with an ongoing engagement, though to your credit you are unabashed above in confirming the obvious regarding the driving forces for your particular analysis of the world.Just an opinion.

Thanks legal... I'll take that as some sort of agreement?

You are right I did leave out important factors - I completely underestimated the amount of building required to cope with our increased population after rampant immigration comes to fruition:-

As previously stated we will need hundreds of thousands new homes, schools, GP surgeries and hospitals.

What I omitted was new factories, offices, supermarkets, distribution centres, warehouses, car parks, train stations, places of entertainment and presumably bigger and bigger mosques?

After all these new arrivals will have to work, eat, be entertained and pray to Allah.

I ask you, or anyone else advocating wholesale immigration to the UK........ where is all the space to accommodate these people and the infrastructure needed to allow them to go about living their new daily lives?

I've already discounted the suggestion made by Serial Thriller who mistakenly believed we had 97% of UK land to build on - can anyone answer this simple question?

Incredible. When did I ever say that? I did say that only 3% of UK land is built on, but you are completely twisting my words here as I've never, ever said that the rest was free to be built on.

What I have pointed out, and what I see you've conveniently ignored, is the fact that we have an estimated 200 000 sites for property on brown belt land available in this country - easily enough not just to house our own homeless but those in Calais.

I also read something interesting today which shows how hypocritical we are when it comes to housing. Apparently Herefordshire has built around 40 broiler units (chicken houses) accommodating thousands of chickens each, in the last 12 months. That's one county, in one year, building homes for what must be hundreds of thousands of chickens, and yet we're having this ludicrous idea bandied around that we can't house a few thousand migrants.

It's around 9%. More land is currently utilised for golf courses than housing in the UK.
I love golf but i love a roof more.

[Link]
There are 600,000 empty properties in this country which is disgraceful. Either have a f***ing great unoccupancy tax but also cap rents to a manageable level. No more than a third of means tested income. Or compulsory purchase them.

When I say this, I am not advocating giving these properties to all of those at Calais, it would create mayhem!

We need to address the homeless issue. At the moment in some boroughs it is illegal to sleep in the street. That's not really solving the problem is it?

Those empty properties should go to homeless British people and people trying to get on the property ladder for the first time, not some foreign thief who wants to rob us blind.

I agree with you but not your sentiments. You are tarring every one of those at calais. Yes there are chancers, but there are also others who are seperated from their partners who have kids and british citizenship.

But yes sort out british homelessness first. It's f***ing ludicrous that this lot in power think you can just make something illegal and it'll go away...

I was going to suggest that some of the houses should be given to a Peruvian Quinoa co-operative

Tax the f*** out of the f***ers with empty buildings. No social responsibility - any of them.