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leggedstruggle Flag Croydon 23 Jul 15 1.52pm

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If I was fluent in Spanish, Italian, Portuguese or German, I wouldn't be working in England, let alone as a copper.

Even with Hebrew I'd probably do one.

If I spoke Hebrew, I'd probably work in Israel, two week bank holiday, get in (plus more bank holidays than any other nation). If I spoke Dutch, I'd probably have got that very well paid job in Holland (in IT for an Amsterdam based bank), which almost certainly would have meant I'd been dead by now.

Not sure I'd pay a grand to be a copper.


Edited by jamiemartin721 (23 Jul 2015 1.04pm)


Fair enough.

What public sector job would you do?

The private sector is very important obviously and I'm not criticising it here.....but if you were to take five years out of your life to 'give back' so to speak. What area would you choose?

None, as I spent four years working in the court service. I currently work in Defense (which pays about 50-75% of what I can demand in the Private sector).


God help us.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 23 Jul 15 2.14pm

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Quote johnfirewall at 23 Jul 2015 12.52pm

If I was fluent in Spanish, Italian, Portuguese or German, I wouldn't be working in England, let alone as a copper.

Even with Hebrew I'd probably do one.

If I spoke Hebrew, I'd probably work in Israel, two week bank holiday, get in (plus more bank holidays than any other nation). If I spoke Dutch, I'd probably have got that very well paid job in Holland (in IT for an Amsterdam based bank), which almost certainly would have meant I'd been dead by now.

Not sure I'd pay a grand to be a copper.


Edited by jamiemartin721 (23 Jul 2015 1.04pm)


Fair enough.

What public sector job would you do?

The private sector is very important obviously and I'm not criticising it here.....but if you were to take five years out of your life to 'give back' so to speak. What area would you choose?

None, as I spent four years working in the court service. I currently work in Defense (which pays about 50-75% of what I can demand in the Private sector).


God help us.

Saved well in excess of half a million pound last year. You'd love what I do, I cut unnecessary waste and expense.


 


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Quote jamiemartin721 at 23 Jul 2015 2.14pm


Saved well in excess of half a million pound last year. You'd love what I do, I cut unnecessary waste and expense.



You're surely not saying that basically you sack people for a living?

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 23 Jul 15 2.35pm

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Saved well in excess of half a million pound last year. You'd love what I do, I cut unnecessary waste and expense.



You're surely not saying that basically you sack people for a living?

No, I've generally been rationalizing spending and how people work and use data. For example, support costs for the machines that are in service, rather than all the machines the project ever owned....


 


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Quote jamiemartin721 at 23 Jul 2015 2.14pm


Saved well in excess of half a million pound last year. You'd love what I do, I cut unnecessary waste and expense.



You're surely not saying that basically you sack people for a living?

No, I've generally been rationalizing spending and how people work and use data. For example, support costs for the machines that are in service, rather than all the machines the project ever owned....


Thank goodness for that!

 


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Quote jamiemartin721 at 23 Jul 2015 1.46pm

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Quote jamiemartin721 at 23 Jul 2015 1.03pm

Quote johnfirewall at 23 Jul 2015 12.52pm

If I was fluent in Spanish, Italian, Portuguese or German, I wouldn't be working in England, let alone as a copper.

Even with Hebrew I'd probably do one.

If I spoke Hebrew, I'd probably work in Israel, two week bank holiday, get in (plus more bank holidays than any other nation). If I spoke Dutch, I'd probably have got that very well paid job in Holland (in IT for an Amsterdam based bank), which almost certainly would have meant I'd been dead by now.

Not sure I'd pay a grand to be a copper.


Edited by jamiemartin721 (23 Jul 2015 1.04pm)


Fair enough.

What public sector job would you do?

The private sector is very important obviously and I'm not criticising it here.....but if you were to take five years out of your life to 'give back' so to speak. What area would you choose?

None, as I spent four years working in the court service. I currently work in Defense (which pays about 50-75% of what I can demand in the Private sector).



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Quote jamiemartin721 at 23 Jul 2015 2.35pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 23 Jul 2015 2.17pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 23 Jul 2015 2.14pm


Saved well in excess of half a million pound last year. You'd love what I do, I cut unnecessary waste and expense.



You're surely not saying that basically you sack people for a living?

No, I've generally been rationalizing spending and how people work and use data. For example, support costs for the machines that are in service, rather than all the machines the project ever owned....


Potentially the easiest job on the planet. Anyone can save companies money. It is ensuring they are just as effective after all the cuts that is the challenge though of course the consultants have gone by then

You of course could be an exception

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 24 Jul 15 10.59am

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Quote jamiemartin721 at 23 Jul 2015 2.14pm


Saved well in excess of half a million pound last year. You'd love what I do, I cut unnecessary waste and expense.



You're surely not saying that basically you sack people for a living?

No, I've generally been rationalizing spending and how people work and use data. For example, support costs for the machines that are in service, rather than all the machines the project ever owned....


Potentially the easiest job on the planet. Anyone can save companies money. It is ensuring they are just as effective after all the cuts that is the challenge though of course the consultants have gone by then

You of course could be an exception

I'd say about 90% of the time the solution I provide not only saves money, or time, but increases efficiency and effectiveness (not necessarily to the individual, but to the company or project as a whole).

I don't just consult, I do and measure, then train and handover.

 


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When I trained for the met, it was me and 5 other white English blokes, none of whom spoke second languages.

Guess that must have been a politically incorrect 6 months.

I'm curious Horsey, why did you drop out?

My sergeant found out that I was doing some work for a political party and said I couldn't do any more shifts until I was "politically neutral". She told me I had to quit my job if I wanted to carry on volunteering. The chances of an actual job as a proper copper were pretty slim anyway as I didn't have my independent patrol status.

I wasn't that into it and thought it was pretty farcical to pretend that there weren't people in the police who were obviously pretty extreme politically. I was asked to help with Maggie Thatcher's funeral, which rather exposed the fact that the "rules" on political activity weren't properly enforced. I'd probably do it again in a decade or so if the time was right.

 


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Quote Stirlingsays at 21 Jul 2015 5.44pm

Quote The White Horse at 21 Jul 2015 5.26pm

When I trained for the met, it was me and 5 other white English blokes, none of whom spoke second languages.

Guess that must have been a politically incorrect 6 months.

I'm curious Horsey, why did you drop out?

My sergeant found out that I was doing some work for a political party and said I couldn't do any more shifts until I was "politically neutral". She told me I had to quit my job if I wanted to carry on volunteering. The chances of an actual job as a proper copper were pretty slim anyway as I didn't have my independent patrol status.

I wasn't that into it and thought it was pretty farcical to pretend that there weren't people in the police who were obviously pretty extreme politically. I was asked to help with Maggie Thatcher's funeral, which rather exposed the fact that the "rules" on political activity weren't properly enforced. I'd probably do it again in a decade or so if the time was right.

Thank you Horsey.

Seems a bit harsh to me....I understand the politically neutral thing in terms of doing the job....But I can't imagine you'd be unprofessional like that.

Comes across as poor management to me. I hope one day you do choose to serve again, volunteer or not.

 


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