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Originally posted by Oddball2021

Enjoying a great '14th placed' Palace? Looking like if we have a great preseason we'll finish top six? My prediction: look forward to another 'do nothing' preseason from Parish & Co. We'll probably lose a whole bunch of stars for BIG MONEY for Parish, then we will wait, and wait, and wait, all season in the transfer window for something to happen, and I predict that IT WON'T. If Parish thinks he can survive another season without spending I believe he will, based on the last 11 years. Remember the last few games of last season? I hope I'm proved wrong, but I'm saying this in advance of it happening. As I write it's 2-0 against UTD - half time.

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View Oddball2021's Profile Oddball2021 Flag Adelaide 08 May 24 12.12am Send a Private Message to Oddball2021 Add Oddball2021 as a friend

I'm not a troll. I am 68 years old, raised in Croydon, and a big Palace fan. At my age you get to see things repeating over the years that younger people don't. I wrote the OP because I want supporters to be 'onto' what Parish has done over the past 11 years and let him know that we want it to stop, to encourage him to stop underfeeding the animal. I am keenly mindful of the lack of silverware in Palace's show-closets. We boast about being (arguably) the OLDEST football club in HISTORY. Even if not entirely true one would think we'd have something to show for that! I thoroughly enjoyed watching OG's Palace over the last few weeks and am super-positive about what 'could' happen. On current form, we could easily be in Europe with an FA cup under our belts. We obliterated the best teams in the best league. I personally think that keeping BOTH Olise and Eze is key to a top four position. Those two together add up to three. But I understand we may not be able to keep them through no fault of the owners. I just want Parish to know that the supporters are onto his business tactics, so that he chooses not to pillage the players over the off-season. I want us to enjoy a full off-season with OG with a full squad to start the next season sprinting out of the traps. I'm not a neg-head, I'm just old and mindful of what has happened before. This club needs SILVERWARE! It's a disgrace, our historical achievements compared to other teams. I want us to actually enjoy a decent season and a trophy, or two. COYP!

 

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View viveasheagle's Profile viveasheagle Flag perth 08 May 24 2.45am Send a Private Message to viveasheagle Add viveasheagle as a friend

Reason's not to be over optimistic for next season:
1) We had a great end to the previous season when Roy took over again and this was not replicated at the start of this season.
2) I think with Roy's style we were not not a pressing team sat back and conserved our energy and moved the ball slowly. I think other teams playing a high energy style flag a bit as the season goes on whereas we still seem to have gas in the tanks so to speak.
3) Olise has a release clause in his contract
Reason's to be optimistic for next season:
1) In our current run we have beaten teams with a lot more to play for than ourselves.
2) Apart from the Liverpool away game, where we rode our luck in the second half, it has not been back to the walls victory's but deserved wins where we have out played teams higher in the table
3) The Newcastle and Fulham results came when their teams had a decent break so we would have been a disadvantage due to limited preparation time and player fatigue.
4) Glasner has impressed me all along and the results have not come straight away but after he has had time to implement his playing style. When Nuno took over at Forest he got the new manager bounce but their results reverted to type soon after this.
5) I suspect the signings of Wharton and Munoz will continue to prove to be excellent ones
6) JRS and Danny Imray look capable of stepping up to this level in the next 1-2 years

 

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View AlexEagles's Profile AlexEagles Flag 08 May 24 2.51am Send a Private Message to AlexEagles Add AlexEagles as a friend

This post should win a prize for being the most depressing thing ever seen written about palace whilst their winning a football match. If you can’t enjoy these moments you can’t enjoy anything. You need to reassess your life and find out what is actually making you unhappy because there are bigger factors at play here beyond football. What a miserable miserable post.

 

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View mileend's Profile mileend Flag East London 08 May 24 8.59am Send a Private Message to mileend Add mileend as a friend

Originally posted by Oddball2021

I'm not a troll. I am 68 years old, raised in Croydon, and a big Palace fan. At my age you get to see things repeating over the years that younger people don't. I wrote the OP because I want supporters to be 'onto' what Parish has done over the past 11 years and let him know that we want it to stop, to encourage him to stop underfeeding the animal. I am keenly mindful of the lack of silverware in Palace's show-closets. We boast about being (arguably) the OLDEST football club in HISTORY. Even if not entirely true one would think we'd have something to show for that! I thoroughly enjoyed watching OG's Palace over the last few weeks and am super-positive about what 'could' happen. On current form, we could easily be in Europe with an FA cup under our belts. We obliterated the best teams in the best league. I personally think that keeping BOTH Olise and Eze is key to a top four position. Those two together add up to three. But I understand we may not be able to keep them through no fault of the owners. I just want Parish to know that the supporters are onto his business tactics, so that he chooses not to pillage the players over the off-season. I want us to enjoy a full off-season with OG with a full squad to start the next season sprinting out of the traps. I'm not a neg-head, I'm just old and mindful of what has happened before. This club needs SILVERWARE! It's a disgrace, our historical achievements compared to other teams. I want us to actually enjoy a decent season and a trophy, or two. COYP!

Every Palace fan wants Silverware and to keep our best players. I don't really agree with your perspective around the rest of your post but recognise the frustration that creates it.

As I posted before we haven't been 'underfeeding the animal' or as I think you mean underspending. We are 11th in Premier League net spending over the last 5 years. And we haven't been pillaged at all in the last five years. Only Wan-Bissaka has bought in any significant cash. It seems like we hardly spend anything in comparison to other clubs but that's because we hardly sell anyone to fund new players or break the financial fair play rules.

That means we have failed to produce or develop players who other prestigious (rich) clubs want at the better wages the improved ambitious players want. Until now.

The recruitment has been good over the last few years (though I await with hope for Franca to come good next season) and the development has been much better - but perhaps only really noticeable to the wider world in the last two months! Generating a lot of interest in those players.

I am sure every Palace fan agrees we want to keep the current team together for next season. But that may not be viable for the owners to fit into the financial fair play. I think the owners will be looking very closely at this. A better team on the pitch is good for them too.

But the players who have release clauses may have those triggered. Both Eze and Olise had the contracts renegotiated so I trust / Freedman Parish got the best deal there that was possible. The lack of opportunities at the bigger clubs in the champions league and dismal state of Man U give me hope for one more year with them both.

We need a bit of cover in the squad. Wing backs. But on the plus side we don't need to spend any money at all if the current form of the current squad can be replicated and (unlikely) everyone stayed fit.

As for Silverware. I have thought both ways on this. We have been within 10-15 minutes twice of winning the FA Cup. Had that gone the other way would I be happier than now if we were in the lower reaches of the football league like Wigan and Portsmouth? At times I have thought yes when the threat of relegation seemed a permanent feature of being a Palace fun with pragmatic football grinding out results. As relegation was surely inevitable with a season of bad luck (my bad mindset) please give us a taste of glory.

Right now, after a decade in the premier league, it looks encouraging for a more progressive system of play with a manager who aspires to more than grinding out 40 points and has the players to go with it. He can get better performances from all players, whether destined for the elite clubs or not.

So do we 'need' Silverware as a club or do we just really really want Silverware?

I think what we really 'need' is a better and bigger ground to grow the club, fanbase, finances, bring in players more easily and I think the owners have really let the club down by not getting on with that 5-6 years ago when the planning permission was first granted.

I still can't believe that building is going to start happening this summer. But the current success on the pitch must now give the owners the incentive to sign those construction contracts.

 

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Originally posted by Oddball2021

I'm not a troll. I am 68 years old, raised in Croydon, and a big Palace fan. At my age you get to see things repeating over the years that younger people don't. I wrote the OP because I want supporters to be 'onto' what Parish has done over the past 11 years and let him know that we want it to stop, to encourage him to stop underfeeding the animal. I am keenly mindful of the lack of silverware in Palace's show-closets. We boast about being (arguably) the OLDEST football club in HISTORY. Even if not entirely true one would think we'd have something to show for that! I thoroughly enjoyed watching OG's Palace over the last few weeks and am super-positive about what 'could' happen. On current form, we could easily be in Europe with an FA cup under our belts. We obliterated the best teams in the best league. I personally think that keeping BOTH Olise and Eze is key to a top four position. Those two together add up to three. But I understand we may not be able to keep them through no fault of the owners. I just want Parish to know that the supporters are onto his business tactics, so that he chooses not to pillage the players over the off-season. I want us to enjoy a full off-season with OG with a full squad to start the next season sprinting out of the traps. I'm not a neg-head, I'm just old and mindful of what has happened before. This club needs SILVERWARE! It's a disgrace, our historical achievements compared to other teams. I want us to actually enjoy a decent season and a trophy, or two. COYP!

I apologise oddball, I wrongly assumed after a lot of your posts you were one of these Aussies who pluck a premier league team out of a hat since we’ve been promoted and call themselves a ‘supporter’ when they’ve obviously not been anywhere near selhurst.
But I think it was your timing of this thread that people found strange, even though as an old lag myself I make you right. But having said that, with age I have also learnt to enjoy the moments while they last because I know how easily things can go tits up

Edited by monkey (08 May 2024 9.13am)

 

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Originally posted by Oddball2021

I'm not a troll. I am 68 years old, raised in Croydon, and a big Palace fan. At my age you get to see things repeating over the years that younger people don't. I wrote the OP because I want supporters to be 'onto' what Parish has done over the past 11 years and let him know that we want it to stop, to encourage him to stop underfeeding the animal. I am keenly mindful of the lack of silverware in Palace's show-closets. We boast about being (arguably) the OLDEST football club in HISTORY. Even if not entirely true one would think we'd have something to show for that! I thoroughly enjoyed watching OG's Palace over the last few weeks and am super-positive about what 'could' happen. On current form, we could easily be in Europe with an FA cup under our belts. We obliterated the best teams in the best league. I personally think that keeping BOTH Olise and Eze is key to a top four position. Those two together add up to three. But I understand we may not be able to keep them through no fault of the owners. I just want Parish to know that the supporters are onto his business tactics, so that he chooses not to pillage the players over the off-season. I want us to enjoy a full off-season with OG with a full squad to start the next season sprinting out of the traps. I'm not a neg-head, I'm just old and mindful of what has happened before. This club needs SILVERWARE! It's a disgrace, our historical achievements compared to other teams. I want us to actually enjoy a decent season and a trophy, or two. COYP!

Well I'm a year younger than you. Yes I would love to see Palace win a cup, and although it's something of a poisoned chalice for a club of our size, get into Europe.

That's where I stop agreeing with you because I don't think you have a clue when it comes to running football clubs in general and Palace in particular.

 


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Originally posted by AlexEagles

This post should win a prize for being the most depressing thing ever seen written about palace whilst their winning a football match. If you can’t enjoy these moments you can’t enjoy anything. You need to reassess your life and find out what is actually making you unhappy because there are bigger factors at play here beyond football. What a miserable miserable post.

Again , I wish there was a like button

 


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View Surrey Hills's Profile Surrey Hills Flag Surrey Hills 08 May 24 11.49am Send a Private Message to Surrey Hills Add Surrey Hills as a friend

Some supporters always pick up that pint glass of Ribena and see it half empty , embrace the end of season , that feel good factor can be carried forward into next season

Edited by Surrey Hills (08 May 2024 11.49am)

 

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View OAPeagle's Profile OAPeagle Flag 08 May 24 12.22pm Send a Private Message to OAPeagle Add OAPeagle as a friend

Remember Leicester, 2015/16. Odds were 5000:1 Anyone think it's worth placing a tenner on the boys?

 

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View eaglesdare's Profile eaglesdare Flag 08 May 24 12.27pm Send a Private Message to eaglesdare Add eaglesdare as a friend

Originally posted by Surrey Hills

Some supporters always pick up that pint glass of Ribena and see it half empty , embrace the end of season , that feel good factor can be carried forward into next season

Edited by Surrey Hills (08 May 2024 11.49am)

Yes im putting aside the whole whenever somthing good comes our way how long will it last or when will it all go tits up? will the manager leave before the start of thenew season? will we end how vieria ended etc.. etc..

Just enjoy it and get wrapped up in all the feel vibes at the moment. We all deserve it

 

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Originally posted by OAPeagle

Remember Leicester, 2015/16. Odds were 5000:1 Anyone think it's worth placing a tenner on the boys?

Don't think it'll happen but why not have a punt? Two pints or a shot at £50,000? Mind you the way the bookies are they won't offer anything like those odds now.

 

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