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Teddy Eagle 16 Apr 24 9.50pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I wonder if we already have the replacement in Franca who seems to have been forgotten about since his injury. Has he appeared under Glasner? Where is he now? What and how bad is his injury? If Glasner and his team can produce the kind of transformations in some players that we have seen what might we see with Franca? He is only just 20. New cultures always take time to adjust to. You could already sense more confidence and maturity growing before the injury. Next year could be a breakthrough for him. Franca has an unspecified groin injury. He's trained but apparently gets pain when the intensity of his training increases. He has no return date specified.
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Teddy Eagle

16 Apr 24 9.50pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I wonder if we already have the replacement in Franca who seems to have been forgotten about since his injury. Has he appeared under Glasner? Where is he now? What and how bad is his injury?

If Glasner and his team can produce the kind of transformations in some players that we have seen what might we see with Franca? He is only just 20. New cultures always take time to adjust to. You could already sense more confidence and maturity growing before the injury.

Next year could be a breakthrough for him.

Franca has an unspecified groin injury. He's trained but apparently gets pain when the intensity of his training increases. He has no return date specified.

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HeathMan Purley 16 Apr 24 10.21pm
Have to hope that Oliver Glasner is well on the way to convincing all those we would wish to stay that a full 2024/2025 season at CPFC is best for their careers. Losing some of the older players will create the space needed for Academy Graduates. COYP
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Purley 16 Apr 24 10.21pm

Have to hope that Oliver Glasner is well on the way to convincing all those we would wish to stay that a full 2024/2025 season at CPFC is best for their careers.

Losing some of the older players will create the space needed for Academy Graduates.

COYP

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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 16 Apr 24 11.27pm
Originally posted by HeathMan Have to hope that Oliver Glasner is well on the way to convincing all those we would wish to stay that a full 2024/2025 season at CPFC is best for their careers. Losing some of the older players will create the space needed for Academy Graduates. COYP That's assuming we have some who are capable of stepping up. As I see it, apart from JRS and possibly Ozoh, the only U21 player who might step up is Imray but I expect he and Ozoh may be sent out on loan to Championship clubs if any are willing to take them.
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Too far from Selhurst Park 16 Apr 24 11.27pm

Originally posted by HeathMan

Have to hope that Oliver Glasner is well on the way to convincing all those we would wish to stay that a full 2024/2025 season at CPFC is best for their careers.

Losing some of the older players will create the space needed for Academy Graduates.

COYP

That's assuming we have some who are capable of stepping up. As I see it, apart from JRS and possibly Ozoh, the only U21 player who might step up is Imray but I expect he and Ozoh may be sent out on loan to Championship clubs if any are willing to take them.

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Badger11 Beckenham 17 Apr 24 7.23am
Originally posted by HeathMan Have to hope that Oliver Glasner is well on the way to convincing all those we would wish to stay that a full 2024/2025 season at CPFC is best for their careers. Losing some of the older players will create the space needed for Academy Graduates. COYP So far Rak Saki is the only one who looks like making it. Plenty are out on loan and not setting the world alight. One more point
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Beckenham 17 Apr 24 7.23am

Originally posted by HeathMan

Have to hope that Oliver Glasner is well on the way to convincing all those we would wish to stay that a full 2024/2025 season at CPFC is best for their careers.

Losing some of the older players will create the space needed for Academy Graduates.

COYP

So far Rak Saki is the only one who looks like making it. Plenty are out on loan and not setting the world alight.

One more point

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Teddy Eagle 17 Apr 24 7.57am
Originally posted by Badger11 So far Rak Saki is the only one who looks like making it. Plenty are out on loan and not setting the world alight. The stats on young players are damning. There was a survey in 2019 that found the figure for success to be 0.012% only 180 of the 1.5m boys playing organised youth football in England will ever play a single minute in the Premier League. FFP might slightly increase the chances but it's like winning the lottery.
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Teddy Eagle

17 Apr 24 7.57am

Originally posted by Badger11

So far Rak Saki is the only one who looks like making it. Plenty are out on loan and not setting the world alight.

The stats on young players are damning. There was a survey in 2019 that found the figure for success to be 0.012% only 180 of the 1.5m boys playing organised youth football in England will ever play a single minute in the Premier League.
FFP might slightly increase the chances but it's like winning the lottery.

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Badger11 Beckenham 17 Apr 24 8.04am
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle The stats on young players are damning. There was a survey in 2019 that found the figure for success to be 0.012% only 180 of the 1.5m boys playing organised youth football in England will ever play a single minute in the Premier League. FFP might slightly increase the chances but it's like winning the lottery. There was an article about the England U15 squad from about 10-15 years ago. At the time they were highly rated. None of them went onto to become star players, some were regulars at lower league levels and a couple were squad players for small PL teams, the rest disappeared. It just shows how the so called best of a generation couldn't even produce one decent PL player. I still think were will only ever produce the occasional player from the Academy, it will be a bonus nothing more . One more point
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Beckenham 17 Apr 24 8.04am

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

There was an article about the England U15 squad from about 10-15 years ago. At the time they were highly rated. None of them went onto to become star players, some were regulars at lower league levels and a couple were squad players for small PL teams, the rest disappeared.

It just shows how the so called best of a generation couldn't even produce one decent PL player.

I still think were will only ever produce the occasional player from the Academy, it will be a bonus nothing more .

One more point

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PJEagle London 17 Apr 24 9.31am
Originally posted by Elpis Olise is too good for Man Utd which is why I think its a made up story . He will go to the very top of the tree , City ,Madrid maybe PSG due to his French connection . Going to Utd these days is like signing for Everton I hope you're right
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PJEagle

London 17 Apr 24 9.31am

Originally posted by Elpis

Olise is too good for Man Utd which is why I think its a made up story .
He will go to the very top of the tree , City ,Madrid maybe PSG due to his French connection . Going to Utd these days is like signing for Everton

I hope you're right

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Norbury Old Git London 17 Apr 24 5.39pm
Originally posted by PJEagle I hope you're right Olise may decide to stay another year to rebuild his match fitness after a torrid season of injuries. He prefers Man U to Liverpool but a successful season under Glasner will open the door to Europe’s best teams. Would he prefer the sunny climes of Madrid, Barcelona or the excitement of Paris, London to the grim north of Manchester?
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Originally posted by PJEagle

I hope you're right

Olise may decide to stay another year to rebuild his match fitness after a torrid season of injuries. He prefers Man U to Liverpool but a successful season under Glasner will open the door to Europe’s best teams. Would he prefer the sunny climes of Madrid, Barcelona or the excitement of Paris, London to the grim north of Manchester?

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cannongilbert 17 Apr 24 6.26pm
Don't forget that about this time last year Olise had already made avocal settlement and was ready to sign for Chelski(many respectable? journalists were dead certain for the deal). Olise has shown that he does have a brain in his head, so lets not be too much in a hurry for developments. If his health is in a good level , it is certain that top clubs here and in Europe will be in a race for his signature, as such a talent is rare nowadays. Question is how will he deal with it. P.S. What an upgrade to have such a talent in your books
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cannongilbert

17 Apr 24 6.26pm

Don't forget that about this time last year Olise had already made avocal settlement and was ready to sign for Chelski(many respectable? journalists were dead certain for the deal). Olise has shown that he does have a brain in his head, so lets not be too much in a hurry for developments. If his health is in a good level , it is certain that top clubs here and in Europe will be in a race for his signature, as such a talent is rare nowadays. Question is how will he deal with it.
P.S. What an upgrade to have such a talent in your books

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silvertop Portishead 18 Apr 24 10.19am
Originally posted by Badger11 So far Rak Saki is the only one who looks like making it. Plenty are out on loan and not setting the world alight. You might want to check the full 1st team squad. Ozoh, Devenny, Imray, Raymond, Mathurin, Umeh-Chibueze and Wells-Morrison are all there and all playing (or recently played) U21. All of them can fill, and some have filled, the bench; and some (or even all?) of them could play a key role next season. None of them are CB, LB and only one striker. But that's still 7 players we don't have to buy, other than Rak Sakyi.
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Portishead 18 Apr 24 10.19am

Originally posted by Badger11

So far Rak Saki is the only one who looks like making it. Plenty are out on loan and not setting the world alight.

You might want to check the full 1st team squad. Ozoh, Devenny, Imray, Raymond, Mathurin, Umeh-Chibueze and Wells-Morrison are all there and all playing (or recently played) U21. All of them can fill, and some have filled, the bench; and some (or even all?) of them could play a key role next season.

None of them are CB, LB and only one striker. But that's still 7 players we don't have to buy, other than Rak Sakyi.

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silvertop Portishead 18 Apr 24 10.24am
Originally posted by Badger11 There was an article about the England U15 squad from about 10-15 years ago. At the time they were highly rated. None of them went onto to become star players, some were regulars at lower league levels and a couple were squad players for small PL teams, the rest disappeared. It just shows how the so called best of a generation couldn't even produce one decent PL player. I still think were will only ever produce the occasional player from the Academy, it will be a bonus nothing more . It's also a great deal to do with development. An England U15 who is at Arsenal, Man City or (dare I now say) us, has a much greater chance of fulfilling potential than one in the Plymouth reserves, or who suffers long term injury (we have one of those) or who is "Bostocked" by a bigger club.
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Portishead 18 Apr 24 10.24am

Originally posted by Badger11

It just shows how the so called best of a generation couldn't even produce one decent PL player.

I still think were will only ever produce the occasional player from the Academy, it will be a bonus nothing more .

It's also a great deal to do with development. An England U15 who is at Arsenal, Man City or (dare I now say) us, has a much greater chance of fulfilling potential than one in the Plymouth reserves, or who suffers long term injury (we have one of those) or who is "Bostocked" by a bigger club.

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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 18 Apr 24 11.33am
Originally posted by silvertop You might want to check the full 1st team squad. Ozoh, Devenny, Imray, Raymond, Mathurin, Umeh-Chibueze and Wells-Morrison are all there and all playing (or recently played) U21. All of them can fill, and some have filled, the bench; and some (or even all?) of them could play a key role next season. None of them are CB, LB and only one striker. But that's still 7 players we don't have to buy, other than Rak Sakyi. Because of our woeful injury situation. Yes, it was a good experience for them. However, only Ozoh from that list has actually played in the PL so far. The pre-season will be key for all these youngsters as it will determine who gets sent out on loan and who is thought ready to be given a chance in the first team. I don't see any of them apart from Ozoh (if he isn't sent out on loan to a CHampionship team) and possibly Imray, getting any PL time next season.
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Too far from Selhurst Park 18 Apr 24 11.33am

Originally posted by silvertop

You might want to check the full 1st team squad. Ozoh, Devenny, Imray, Raymond, Mathurin, Umeh-Chibueze and Wells-Morrison are all there and all playing (or recently played) U21. All of them can fill, and some have filled, the bench; and some (or even all?) of them could play a key role next season.

None of them are CB, LB and only one striker. But that's still 7 players we don't have to buy, other than Rak Sakyi.

Because of our woeful injury situation. Yes, it was a good experience for them. However, only Ozoh from that list has actually played in the PL so far.

The pre-season will be key for all these youngsters as it will determine who gets sent out on loan and who is thought ready to be given a chance in the first team.

I don't see any of them apart from Ozoh (if he isn't sent out on loan to a CHampionship team) and possibly Imray, getting any PL time next season.

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