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View eagleman13's Profile eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 23 Jan 24 2.57pm Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

Originally posted by Gribbo

To replace Jake O'Brien who we sold to Lyon for £1m.

And Sean Grehan who we've loaned out.

 


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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 23 Jan 24 3.02pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Gribbo

To replace Jake O'Brien who we sold to Lyon for £1m.

I doubt O'Brien was already twenty. Maybe he was - I haven't looked.

 


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View Peter de Lisle's Profile Peter de Lisle Flag London 23 Jan 24 3.07pm Send a Private Message to Peter de Lisle Add Peter de Lisle as a friend

Quick suggestion for Doogie - maybe start scouting the Championship again (and/or start looking at players that have proven Premier League quality but are surplus to requirements elsewhere) rather than spending all your time at Larne/Ballymena signing players for the academy that will never make it to the first team.

The genuinely good signings we've made in the past few years (Eze, Olise, Guehi) have all looked really good in the Championship. It is clearly a fairly reasonable indicator of being able to do a job in a PL team. Playing for Larne? Not so much. Playing for a youth team in Brazil? Also not so much...

 

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Originally posted by Peter de Lisle

Quick suggestion for Doogie - maybe start scouting the Championship again (and/or start looking at players that have proven Premier League quality but are surplus to requirements elsewhere) rather than spending all your time at Larne/Ballymena signing players for the academy that will never make it to the first team.

The genuinely good signings we've made in the past few years (Eze, Olise, Guehi) have all looked really good in the Championship. It is clearly a fairly reasonable indicator of being able to do a job in a PL team. Playing for Larne? Not so much. Playing for a youth team in Brazil? Also not so much...

Indeed. Players like Jaden Philogene, next young talent to come out of the Championship.

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 23 Jan 24 3.48pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Peter de Lisle

Quick suggestion for Doogie - maybe start scouting the Championship again (and/or start looking at players that have proven Premier League quality but are surplus to requirements elsewhere) rather than spending all your time at Larne/Ballymena signing players for the academy that will never make it to the first team.

The genuinely good signings we've made in the past few years (Eze, Olise, Guehi) have all looked really good in the Championship. It is clearly a fairly reasonable indicator of being able to do a job in a PL team. Playing for Larne? Not so much. Playing for a youth team in Brazil? Also not so much...

He's waiting for the price reduction of FM24.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 23 Jan 24 7.00pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Peter de Lisle

Quick suggestion for Doogie - maybe start scouting the Championship again (and/or start looking at players that have proven Premier League quality but are surplus to requirements elsewhere) rather than spending all your time at Larne/Ballymena signing players for the academy that will never make it to the first team.

The genuinely good signings we've made in the past few years (Eze, Olise, Guehi) have all looked really good in the Championship. It is clearly a fairly reasonable indicator of being able to do a job in a PL team. Playing for Larne? Not so much. Playing for a youth team in Brazil? Also not so much...

Do you really think he isn’t doing this? I bet he has detailed data on every prospect in the Championship.

 


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View eagleman13's Profile eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 23 Jan 24 7.22pm Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Do you really think he isn’t doing this? I bet he has detailed data on every prospect in the Championship.

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Do you really think he isn’t doing this? I bet he has detailed data on every prospect in the Championship.

I genuinely have no faith that due diligence is being done.

As its the same people who are culpable for all the other squad issues we have.

 

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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 24 Jan 24 10.11am Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Do you really think he isn’t doing this? I bet he has detailed data on every prospect in the Championship.

I agree.

As with all the other DoF at any of the top clubs.

 


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View Peter de Lisle's Profile Peter de Lisle Flag London 24 Jan 24 10.37am Send a Private Message to Peter de Lisle Add Peter de Lisle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Do you really think he isn’t doing this? I bet he has detailed data on every prospect in the Championship.


Apologies, my message might not have been clear - it was meant to be slightly tongue in cheek. You'd absolutely expect a scouting department worth their salt to have detailed data on every professional player playing in England, and most other countries too. My view is that the signings have been so bad in the last year and a half (Lerma aside) that we as fans have a reasonable right to question what the hell the scouting/signings team and Dougie Freedman (who is literally employed to oversee the finding of good players to enhance our team) have actually been doing.

I understand Dougie is a Palace legend, but there comes a stage when the inability to sign people to enhance our team has an enormously detrimental impact on the club itself. If we go down, which I think there is a very, very real chance of us doing, I personally will see that as the fault of Dougie Freedman and his team.

Every day that goes past that he misses another good loan or free signing that could have done a job for us (Ben Brereton Diaz, Fabio Carvalho, Ross Barkley, even old Andros, Ashley Young, Asmir Begovic (would've been preferable to wasting half the budget on Henderson), James Milner, Manuel Lanzini, the list goes on), coupled with the fact that the club haven't used either loan slot, or seemingly tried to sign anyone performing really well in the Championship - you have to wonder what he is actually looking at and what he's actually doing.

I would rather see the fan's frustration aimed at him and his team, who have royally, royally shafted the club by doing such a substandard job of adequately manning the squad. The reality is everyone is desperate not to criticise Dougie as he was a good striker for us. Let's call it what it is though - the last three transfer windows (this one included), apart from signing Jefferson Lerma, have been an unmitigated disaster and that is why we are where we are. Do I think Mourinho would be doing a better job with the players available and fit currently? I do not.

 

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View Dubai Eagle's Profile Dubai Eagle Online Flag 24 Jan 24 11.05am Send a Private Message to Dubai Eagle Add Dubai Eagle as a friend

We simply don't know how much due diligence the DOF & his team do on any players / prospects - we don't get to hear about their recommendations - ultimately its not them that sign the cheques / authorise the expenditure / balance the profit & sustainability ledger.

Originally posted by Peter de Lisle


Apologies, my message might not have been clear - it was meant to be slightly tongue in cheek. You'd absolutely expect a scouting department worth their salt to have detailed data on every professional player playing in England, and most other countries too. My view is that the signings have been so bad in the last year and a half (Lerma aside) that we as fans have a reasonable right to question what the hell the scouting/signings team and Dougie Freedman (who is literally employed to oversee the finding of good players to enhance our team) have actually been doing.

I understand Dougie is a Palace legend, but there comes a stage when the inability to sign people to enhance our team has an enormously detrimental impact on the club itself. If we go down, which I think there is a very, very real chance of us doing, I personally will see that as the fault of Dougie Freedman and his team.

Every day that goes past that he misses another good loan or free signing that could have done a job for us (Ben Brereton Diaz, Fabio Carvalho, Ross Barkley, even old Andros, Ashley Young, Asmir Begovic (would've been preferable to wasting half the budget on Henderson), James Milner, Manuel Lanzini, the list goes on), coupled with the fact that the club haven't used either loan slot, or seemingly tried to sign anyone performing really well in the Championship - you have to wonder what he is actually looking at and what he's actually doing.

I would rather see the fan's frustration aimed at him and his team, who have royally, royally shafted the club by doing such a substandard job of adequately manning the squad. The reality is everyone is desperate not to criticise Dougie as he was a good striker for us. Let's call it what it is though - the last three transfer windows (this one included), apart from signing Jefferson Lerma, have been an unmitigated disaster and that is why we are where we are. Do I think Mourinho would be doing a better job with the players available and fit currently? I do not.

 

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Originally posted by ASCPFC

I doubt O'Brien was already twenty. Maybe he was - I haven't looked.

Where's Willopeadia when you need him ?

 

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