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eaglesdare Online Today 12.29pm
Originally posted by HKOwen I expect a Labour government, no surprise there. The Conservatives need to retain enough seats to form an opposition that can challenge. Lib dems who cares. I hope the Galloway backed candidates do damage to Labour for taking them for granted for years. I will be delighted if Rayner can be unseated. Otherwise, the country is pretty much fooked now. Whether Labour or Conservatives in charge won't make much difference next term anyway. I suspect many in the 25-45 age group will emigrate if they have the chance, further depleting services and skills. If this sounds hopeless it's because I think it generally is hopeless, slow decline and a quasi return to Europe. Brexit never had a chance to be a success The country will further polarise between urban and countryside. Mass migration of low and non skilled means we are taking net takers from the system who will not generate the tax required to fund themselves Edited by HKOwen (23 May 2024 12.01pm) Edited by HKOwen (23 May 2024 12.02pm) It's not much better in different parts of the world. Infact it's worse in my opinion. England will always be the best place to live for me anyway regardless of who is in charge. I have lived through one labour government I can certainly live through another. I do think the migration crises will worsen. And the tories will get their act together in the election after this one and be back sooner than we all think.
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Today 12.29pm

Originally posted by HKOwen

I expect a Labour government, no surprise there.

The Conservatives need to retain enough seats to form an opposition that can challenge.

Lib dems who cares.

I hope the Galloway backed candidates do damage to Labour for taking them for granted for years. I will be delighted if Rayner can be unseated.

Otherwise, the country is pretty much fooked now.

Whether Labour or Conservatives in charge won't make much difference next term anyway.

I suspect many in the 25-45 age group will emigrate if they have the chance, further depleting services and skills.

If this sounds hopeless it's because I think it generally is hopeless, slow decline and a quasi return to Europe.

Brexit never had a chance to be a success

The country will further polarise between urban and countryside.

Mass migration of low and non skilled means we are taking net takers from the system who will not generate the tax required to fund themselves

Edited by HKOwen (23 May 2024 12.01pm)

Edited by HKOwen (23 May 2024 12.02pm)

It's not much better in different parts of the world. Infact it's worse in my opinion.

England will always be the best place to live for me anyway regardless of who is in charge. I have lived through one labour government I can certainly live through another.

I do think the migration crises will worsen. And the tories will get their act together in the election after this one and be back sooner than we all think.

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eaglesdare Online Today 7.47pm
I see the tories have reinstated Hancock........I am lost for words now.
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Today 7.47pm

I see the tories have reinstated Hancock........I am lost for words now.

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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 Today 8.12pm
Originally posted by HKOwen I expect a Labour government, no surprise there. The Conservatives need to retain enough seats to form an opposition that can challenge. Lib dems who cares. I hope the Galloway backed candidates do damage to Labour for taking them for granted for years. I will be delighted if Rayner can be unseated. Otherwise, the country is pretty much fooked now. Whether Labour or Conservatives in charge won't make much difference next term anyway. I suspect many in the 25-45 age group will emigrate if they have the chance, further depleting services and skills. If this sounds hopeless it's because I think it generally is hopeless, slow decline and a quasi return to Europe. Brexit never had a chance to be a success The country will further polarise between urban and countryside. Mass migration of low and non skilled means we are taking net takers from the system who will not generate the tax required to fund themselves Edited by HKOwen (23 May 2024 12.01pm) Edited by HKOwen (23 May 2024 12.02pm) Ignoring the fact that this is already happening… given Labour are infinitely more popular amongst 25-45 year olds than the Tories, why would this GE (and Labour government to follow) go any way to increase that trend? Certainly agree with your assessment that the country is f***ed.
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Originally posted by HKOwen

I expect a Labour government, no surprise there.

The Conservatives need to retain enough seats to form an opposition that can challenge.

Lib dems who cares.

I hope the Galloway backed candidates do damage to Labour for taking them for granted for years. I will be delighted if Rayner can be unseated.

Otherwise, the country is pretty much fooked now.

Whether Labour or Conservatives in charge won't make much difference next term anyway.

I suspect many in the 25-45 age group will emigrate if they have the chance, further depleting services and skills.

If this sounds hopeless it's because I think it generally is hopeless, slow decline and a quasi return to Europe.

Brexit never had a chance to be a success

The country will further polarise between urban and countryside.

Mass migration of low and non skilled means we are taking net takers from the system who will not generate the tax required to fund themselves

Edited by HKOwen (23 May 2024 12.01pm)

Edited by HKOwen (23 May 2024 12.02pm)

Ignoring the fact that this is already happening… given Labour are infinitely more popular amongst 25-45 year olds than the Tories, why would this GE (and Labour government to follow) go any way to increase that trend?

Certainly agree with your assessment that the country is f***ed.

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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 Today 8.13pm
Originally posted by Ouzo Dan NATO/British troops fighting in Ukraine, H5N1, Climate lockdowns & a catastrophic economic collapse. I cant remember where I read/saw it but Sunak doesnt want to be a war time PM so is getting out whilst he can. Edit: Andrew Bridgen interview Edited by Ouzo Dan (23 May 2024 8.02pm) He’ll have sailed off into the California sunset by the end of the year - he couldn’t care less.
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Originally posted by Ouzo Dan

NATO/British troops fighting in Ukraine, H5N1, Climate lockdowns & a catastrophic economic collapse.

I cant remember where I read/saw it but Sunak doesnt want to be a war time PM so is getting out whilst he can.
Edit: Andrew Bridgen interview

Edited by Ouzo Dan (23 May 2024 8.02pm)

He’ll have sailed off into the California sunset by the end of the year - he couldn’t care less.

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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 Today 8.18pm
Originally posted by Matov Except both are caused by the same virus. Which is the point. A good description of our political and economic reality I read this week: “We continue to diagnose a terminal cancer as a series of seasonal colds.” Edited by EverybodyDannsNow (23 May 2024 8.18pm)
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SE19 Today 8.18pm

Originally posted by Matov

Except both are caused by the same virus. Which is the point.

A good description of our political and economic reality I read this week:

“We continue to diagnose a terminal cancer as a series of seasonal colds.”

Edited by EverybodyDannsNow (23 May 2024 8.18pm)

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Stirlingsays Today 8.42pm
Sunak or Starmer has to be up there with Biden or Trump for depressing choices. It's not democracy in any real sense...the system holds more power than the executive. Look how the civil service beat out department heads during this Tory run.....it's a uniparty form of democracy with minor differences between parties....neo-democracy. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Today 8.42pm

Sunak or Starmer has to be up there with Biden or Trump for depressing choices.

It's not democracy in any real sense...the system holds more power than the executive. Look how the civil service beat out department heads during this Tory run.....it's a uniparty form of democracy with minor differences between parties....neo-democracy.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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steeleye20 Croydon Today 8.45pm
'Rishi Sunak has dropped flagship policies on deporting asylum seekers to Rwanda and banning smoking for young people on the first full day of his election campaign, leaving his legacy increasingly threadbare'. His 'workers playtime' audience turned out to be tory councillors. Important to Britain's 11 million renters, the landlord/tenants bill, promised in the 2019 manifesto, is scuppered. So the tory landlords, of which he is one, escape undamaged. Not a fit country.
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Croydon Today 8.45pm

'Rishi Sunak has dropped flagship policies on deporting asylum seekers to Rwanda and banning smoking for young people on the first full day of his election campaign, leaving his legacy increasingly threadbare'.

His 'workers playtime' audience turned out to be tory councillors.

Important to Britain's 11 million renters, the landlord/tenants bill, promised in the 2019 manifesto, is scuppered.

So the tory landlords, of which he is one, escape undamaged.

Not a fit country.

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