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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 18 Aug 22 12.45am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend


Just got notice of the new gas/electricity tariff - it's more than doubled per month for the wife and me and we're not particularly wasteful.
This is going to really batter some families.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 18 Aug 22 5.28am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle


Just got notice of the new gas/electricity tariff - it's more than doubled per month for the wife and me and we're not particularly wasteful.
This is going to really batter some families.

Is that the direct debit amount each month doubled or the kw/h electric and m3/h gas

 

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View Dubai Eagle's Profile Dubai Eagle Flag 18 Aug 22 5.55am Send a Private Message to Dubai Eagle Add Dubai Eagle as a friend

Being a bit older (owning own house etc) but having grown up on a council estate I cant help but feel for those families trying to make their way in this world, on or around the breadline, how are they supposed to cope with a doubling of energy prices ?

There are only so many subscription cancelling & savings that a growing family can make - to me this is a case where the Government needs to step in & either insist that the energy giants provide affordable energy to the general public during this crisis period (with the energy giants foregoing profits & development investment if necessary) or the government provide realistic income support to those that need it -

People shouldn't have to choose between feeding the family or having heating on, or not paying the bill & getting proceedings brought against them -

The UK is a first world country & at times like this when the population needs help the Government should act accordingly -

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 18 Aug 22 7.03am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Dubai Eagle

Being a bit older (owning own house etc) but having grown up on a council estate I cant help but feel for those families trying to make their way in this world, on or around the breadline, how are they supposed to cope with a doubling of energy prices ?

There are only so many subscription cancelling & savings that a growing family can make - to me this is a case where the Government needs to step in & either insist that the energy giants provide affordable energy to the general public during this crisis period (with the energy giants foregoing profits & development investment if necessary) or the government provide realistic income support to those that need it -

People shouldn't have to choose between feeding the family or having heating on, or not paying the bill & getting proceedings brought against them -

The UK is a first world country & at times like this when the population needs help the Government should act accordingly -

Us and energy companies are having to pay a ‘green’ tax. This is about 25%, add the annual regular rises on and the figure hits around the difference. Net zero 2050 is not the great utopian existence as getting there was never a consideration. Trump called it and got hammered. The question of why wasn’t asked. I think it’s being answered now!

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 18 Aug 22 8.22am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Is that the direct debit amount each month doubled or the kw/h electric and m3/h gas

Direct debit.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 18 Aug 22 9.14am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Direct debit.

You can request that it’s reduced and then pay the difference next year. By then the costs will have fallen so it might be split into next years monthly amounts.
I am on a gas card and key meter.
Just had a BG letter with last years gas use at £500 aug21 to aug22 and next years estimated at about £750. Now that is a 50% increase but I pay as I use it. Bit more expensive but my very own smart meter without nosey Parker’s checking my hourly use. Waiting on electric estimate but again I can put on what I want as and when. It works out about £4 a day for my electric atm. That’s a 3 bed with 4 adults and fans running and tvs and ps games etc for the ‘grown up’ children
Also people arnt aware that they control the direct debit amount not the receiver of said DD. The DD guarantee we all sign allows changes from the company receiving it.
A standing order cannot be adjusted by the company so that is an option on a budget.
In the current market it is unlikely that any power or gas will be cut off for low or non payment.
I was going to change from my prepay but now I’m pleased I didn’t. It can be inconvenient but also you get £10 emergency credit if you run out of normal credit and that then comes off when you top up.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 18 Aug 22 9.18am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

One of the directors of OFGEN has resigned as she doesn't believe that the regulator has enough teeth to deal with the current crisis.

I suspect most of us would agree. OFGEN should have powers to force energy companies to invest in power generation from their profits amongst other things.

 


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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 18 Aug 22 9.30am Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle


Just got notice of the new gas/electricity tariff - it's more than doubled per month for the wife and me and we're not particularly wasteful.
This is going to really batter some families.

I think 90% of families are going to notice a difference. For people already on a financial knife, this is going to be a genuine problem.

And I cannot shake the notion that this entire crisis has been manufactured. That some very powerful people WANT us to struggle here in Europe.

 


"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 18 Aug 22 9.42am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

I think 90% of families are going to notice a difference. For people already on a financial knife, this is going to be a genuine problem.

And I cannot shake the notion that this entire crisis has been manufactured. That some very powerful people WANT us to struggle here in Europe.

Lots of people are still mostly working from home too so will have been saving on fares to work which will change to some extent going forward.

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 18 Aug 22 9.46am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

You can request that it’s reduced and then pay the difference next year. By then the costs will have fallen so it might be split into next years monthly amounts.
I am on a gas card and key meter.
Just had a BG letter with last years gas use at £500 aug21 to aug22 and next years estimated at about £750. Now that is a 50% increase but I pay as I use it. Bit more expensive but my very own smart meter without nosey Parker’s checking my hourly use. Waiting on electric estimate but again I can put on what I want as and when. It works out about £4 a day for my electric atm. That’s a 3 bed with 4 adults and fans running and tvs and ps games etc for the ‘grown up’ children
Also people arnt aware that they control the direct debit amount not the receiver of said DD. The DD guarantee we all sign allows changes from the company receiving it.
A standing order cannot be adjusted by the company so that is an option on a budget.
In the current market it is unlikely that any power or gas will be cut off for low or non payment.
I was going to change from my prepay but now I’m pleased I didn’t. It can be inconvenient but also you get £10 emergency credit if you run out of normal credit and that then comes off when you top up.

Thanks for the advice Cryrst. General thought seems to be that the high prices will continue through 2023 so I think we'll keep the dd rather than risk getting clobbered for a big bill later.

 

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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 18 Aug 22 9.53am Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Lots of people are still mostly working from home too so will have been saving on fares to work which will change to some extent going forward.


Not so sure. Currently working from home myself, which I detest, but am in a tiny minority on that. And the organisation itself seems keen on people doing so long-term.

To be fair, it potentially offers me the chance to make the move to Croatia much earlier than anticipated but there is not going to be this mass return to the office any time soon.

 


"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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View Palace Old Geezer's Profile Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 18 Aug 22 10.26am Send a Private Message to Palace Old Geezer Add Palace Old Geezer as a friend

Anyone who lived through the inflationary 70s is less concerned about what's going on. We'll re-adjust and budget accordingly. Folk these days are too quick to whinge and expect to be bailed out by 'the government', forgetting that it's their money the government has to use.

Anyway, I received a note from British Gas yesterday to advise that I would be paid £400 in October to assist with my energy bill. Hunky dory.

 


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