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View Stuk's Profile Stuk Flag Top half 08 May 18 1.33pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

I don't know why anyone pays any attention to these stories. The report has been written by a think tank (aka t***s) who have no power or influence on anyone.

It would hurt anyone closer to 26 more financially than it would a current pensioner too. They'd miss out on the cash, suffer the same consequences in later life as the current pensioners and have to wait many years later to even start receiving their pension.

File under "s*** report by irrelevant group".

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 08 May 18 1.34pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

The living wage is on its way. Will be interesting to see if it narrows following the £10 living wage coming in but a possible fall in wages for those just above in the way of redundancies and lower pay elsewhere or smaller annual wage increases.

It is a possible answer. I have my doubts as too whether the 'living wage' malarkey will work....but hopefully if they introduce it I'm wrong.

I know that if these predictions on increasing automation are to be realised to what they suggest....something will have to happen.

We need our brightest people making these decisions....I'm not sure that's what we have in the political realm.


Edited by Stirlingsays (08 May 2018 1.37pm)

 


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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 08 May 18 1.51pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by becky

Even for the pensioners, the down payment and mortgage payments on their first house/flat were still large pro rata to their income - and you only got 1 and a half times principal salary.

Far more generous welfare? How? All that was available for most of my working life was a very basic level of sick pay, and an existence level of unemployment benefit for those that needed it.

Final salary pensions were only ever paid to those in Local Authority, Civil Service or large companies. The vast majority of pensioners from the so-called baby boomers don't have this luxury.

Student grants again were only for the few that went to university - most went out to work as soon as they left school.

So, to prod your No1 on the list, I quite agree...... let them live with their parents (even when they are married), regard a night out a month as a luxury treat (and that no more than a cinema or down the pub), 'make do and mend' with their clothes and mobiles, go without holidays and cars, and then they might get to the same point as their parents, who did do all these things!

In a world filled with unfounded political views, this is without doubt the most ridiculous that I commonly hear/read.

If you think a bit of hard work and saving is all it takes to solve the issue, you are entirely clueless about the reality of what people are facing.

 

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View Direwolf's Profile Direwolf Flag Lincoln 08 May 18 1.59pm Send a Private Message to Direwolf Add Direwolf as a friend

Originally posted by Lyons550

Remove their winter £10 payment!!

Can we not just contribute a little more to global warming and thus remove winter itself? Bingo - no need for any payment. Every cloud as they say.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 08 May 18 2.04pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

Unfair singling out the Tories. There isn't a party that doesn't chase the grey vote.

Most voters come in the 54+ bracket. And their primary concerns at present are their pensions, their healthcare and all those bl00dy immigrants making them wait at the GP and post office. Not, sadly, the future of their own children.

Thus, policy, public resources and media coverage are heavily skewed to those issues.

[There, didn't mention Brexit once]

I think good people are concerned for their children.

I was a teacher and I have to say that a significant amount of parents should be proud of their kids. Good people raising good kids.

The problem is that there is another group who aren't so good.....there's a hell of a lot of people who rely on the state to solve problems that they should sort out themselves or at least partially sort out and that essentially worsens everything.

Same as it ever was.......it's just that thanks to the baby boomers and our useless politicians that second lot are larger.

Essentially this country went to pot after the war.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 May 2018 2.11pm)

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 08 May 18 2.15pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I think good people are concerned for their children.

I was a teacher and I have to say that a significant amount of parents should be proud of their kids. Good people raising good kids.

The problem is that there is another group who aren't so good.....there's a hell of a lot of people who rely on the state to solve problems that they should sort out themselves or at least partially sort out and that essentially worsens everything.

Same as it ever was.......it's just that thanks to the baby boomers and our useless politicians that second lot are larger.

Essentially this country went to pot after the war.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 May 2018 2.11pm)

More the ‘60s and with Skunk in circulation there’s more dumbers.

 


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View Direwolf's Profile Direwolf Flag Lincoln 08 May 18 2.19pm Send a Private Message to Direwolf Add Direwolf as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

In a world filled with unfounded political views, this is without doubt the most ridiculous that I commonly hear/read.

If you think a bit of hard work and saving is all it takes to solve the issue, you are entirely clueless about the reality of what people are facing.

Thank you - I need no longer exercise any such prudence myself and shall thus now live my life in glorious profligacy safe in the knowledge that it will be of no detriment to anyone.

 

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View becky's Profile becky Flag over the moon 08 May 18 2.19pm Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

In a world filled with unfounded political views, this is without doubt the most ridiculous that I commonly hear/read.

If you think a bit of hard work and saving is all it takes to solve the issue, you are entirely clueless about the reality of what people are facing.

It may not 'solve the issue' per se, but it will get you your deposit on a property.

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 08 May 18 2.28pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

More the ‘60s and with Skunk in circulation there’s more dumbers.

The 60s were kids raised by post war parents but yeah.....great for music and the pill and miniskirt....but parents got softer and softer until we basically now moan at Army drill instructors for being harsh on recruits.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 08 May 18 2.29pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by becky

It may not 'solve the issue' per se, but it will get you your deposit on a property.

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Good luck to them but it is 2 people already together (is it that easy getting together with someone living at your parents’?), in a very cheap area of the country. They’ve done it how lots of people did it post-war but it’ll take a lot longer for most.

 


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 08 May 18 2.34pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

I don't really care for this guys political persuasion.
But this policy fits with a certain socialist policy

Make everyone equal
Either equally poor or equally rich
I fear the first would be the outcome.

Although pensioners are now generally net takers of their contributions to the social sack of dosh.

I blame the whole stay healthy and live to a 100 mantra.
Wtf has it got to do with anyone if I want to eat bad drink bad and smoke.
My time will be early so I will go and have been a net contributer.

We all got it coming for sure.

 

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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 08 May 18 2.40pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by becky

It may not 'solve the issue' per se, but it will get you your deposit on a property.

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Would

 


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