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Lyons550 Shirley 09 May 15 9.28am
Quote serial thriller at 08 May 2015 3.24pm Quote Lyons550 at 08 May 2015 2.51pm Quote serial thriller at 08 May 2015 11.07am Quote matt_himself at 08 May 2015 6.02am Quote serial thriller at 08 May 2015 12.09am Unbelievably depressing. Even as someone who didn't vote, I can appreciate how terrible a Tory/UKIP/DUP coalition would be. I might have to take up smoking again. You have no grounds to complain if you did t vote. Why, do you think my vote could've swayed it? Seeing as certain seats were won with as small a margin as 45 votes...quite easily Then that's the party's fault for not providing a better platform for my views, thus not gaining my vote. That's the thing about democracy, it makes those in power accountable, rather than those who are voting, who hold all the cards. Gutless The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World
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Shirley 09 May 15 9.28am

Quote serial thriller at 08 May 2015 3.24pm

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Quote serial thriller at 08 May 2015 11.07am

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Quote serial thriller at 08 May 2015 12.09am

Unbelievably depressing. Even as someone who didn't vote, I can appreciate how terrible a Tory/UKIP/DUP coalition would be.

I might have to take up smoking again.

You have no grounds to complain if you did t vote.

Why, do you think my vote could've swayed it?

Seeing as certain seats were won with as small a margin as 45 votes...quite easily

Then that's the party's fault for not providing a better platform for my views, thus not gaining my vote.

That's the thing about democracy, it makes those in power accountable, rather than those who are voting, who hold all the cards.

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Bubbs Edinburgh 09 May 15 11.58am
Quote JL85 at 09 May 2015 6.20am Quote Bubbs at 09 May 2015 5.18am Quote JL85 at 08 May 2015 8.16pm Does anyone know why the last 2 elections were 5 years apart and the previous 2 4 years? This was the first election that was a fixed 5 year term, which means that the date of the election is set in stone 5 years after the last one. Previous elections were up to the discretion of the incumbent Government. They could call an election anytime they wanted within the 5 year limit. Obviously, Governments would wait for the optimum moment to call one when they thought their stock was highest. Very much a game of poker. When Tony Blair stepped down and let Brown in as PM, 2 years into his term; there was strong speculation that Brown, for credibility and fairness as he was unelected by the country, would call an election to get the mandate of the people. He was in his honeymoon period with the public and would almost certainly had won. He decided not to. Roll on a year, and the banking crisis and suddenly his popularity plummeted; so he stretched out his term to the 5 year limit in the hope that his fortunes could turn. He must look back on his decision not to go to the country in 2007/8 and kick himself. Edited by Bubbs (09 May 2015 5.23am) Thanks Bubbs. I liked Brown, he was a s*e PM but a rather genuine guy. I spent the best part of 6 years working at both the Treasury and Foreign Office and had the displeasure of meeting a fair few MP's and Blair himself. Blair was a t*, as was David Miliband. Brown was alright. Always polite and friendly and would often sit and have breakfast amongst the workers. Also remember Ed Balls and thinking he was a a bit of a nob. Probably because of his surname, but I was 17 at the time. Edited by JL85 (09 May 2015 6.38am) Wow, that's some job to have as a youngster being exposed to that. That was the sad thing about Brown: he let his spin doctors dictate how he should present himself and it just came out all wrong. They should've just let him act naturally and it would've come across so much better. The smiling thing was painful to watch. 'Better stop dreaming of the quiet life 'cos it's the one we'll never know'
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Edinburgh 09 May 15 11.58am

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Quote JL85 at 08 May 2015 8.16pm

Does anyone know why the last 2 elections were 5 years apart and the previous 2 4 years?

This was the first election that was a fixed 5 year term, which means that the date of the election is set in stone 5 years after the last one.

Previous elections were up to the discretion of the incumbent Government. They could call an election anytime they wanted within the 5 year limit.

Obviously, Governments would wait for the optimum moment to call one when they thought their stock was highest. Very much a game of poker.

When Tony Blair stepped down and let Brown in as PM, 2 years into his term; there was strong speculation that Brown, for credibility and fairness as he was unelected by the country, would call an election to get the mandate of the people. He was in his honeymoon period with the public and would almost certainly had won. He decided not to.

Roll on a year, and the banking crisis and suddenly his popularity plummeted; so he stretched out his term to the 5 year limit in the hope that his fortunes could turn.

He must look back on his decision not to go to the country in 2007/8 and kick himself.

Edited by Bubbs (09 May 2015 5.23am)

Thanks Bubbs.

I liked Brown, he was a s***e PM but a rather genuine guy. I spent the best part of 6 years working at both the Treasury and Foreign Office and had the displeasure of meeting a fair few MP's and Blair himself.

Blair was a t***, as was David Miliband. Brown was alright. Always polite and friendly and would often sit and have breakfast amongst the workers.

Also remember Ed Balls and thinking he was a a bit of a nob. Probably because of his surname, but I was 17 at the time.

Edited by JL85 (09 May 2015 6.38am)

Wow, that's some job to have as a youngster being exposed to that.

That was the sad thing about Brown: he let his spin doctors dictate how he should present himself and it just came out all wrong. They should've just let him act naturally and it would've come across so much better. The smiling thing was painful to watch.

'Better stop dreaming of the quiet life 'cos it's the one we'll never know'

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Johnny Eagles berlin 09 May 15 12.08pm
BBC Any Questions going on about the poor and disabled having to 'despair'. That's one guarantee of a tory majority: ceaseless bleating about the 'vulnerable'. Not sure I can take 5 years of it. ...we must expand...get more pupils...so that the knowledge will spread...
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berlin 09 May 15 12.08pm

BBC Any Questions going on about the poor and disabled having to 'despair'.

That's one guarantee of a tory majority: ceaseless bleating about the 'vulnerable'.

Not sure I can take 5 years of it.

...we must expand...get more pupils...so that the knowledge will spread...

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matt_himself Matataland 09 May 15 12.30pm
Quote Johnny Eagles at 09 May 2015 12.08pm BBC Any Questions going on about the poor and disabled having to 'despair'. That's one guarantee of a tory majority: ceaseless bleating about the 'vulnerable'. Not sure I can take 5 years of it. Not to mention five years of Facebook bleating about 'desperate' kids and 'impoverished' OAP's. The fact that on Facebook most lefties appear to want to replace democracy with a system whereby they, and only they, can choose the government, is alarmingly akin to fascism. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 09 May 15 12.30pm

Quote Johnny Eagles at 09 May 2015 12.08pm

BBC Any Questions going on about the poor and disabled having to 'despair'.

That's one guarantee of a tory majority: ceaseless bleating about the 'vulnerable'.

Not sure I can take 5 years of it.

Not to mention five years of Facebook bleating about 'desperate' kids and 'impoverished' OAP's.

The fact that on Facebook most lefties appear to want to replace democracy with a system whereby they, and only they, can choose the government, is alarmingly akin to fascism.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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legaleagle 09 May 15 12.58pm
Quote Johnny Eagles at 09 May 2015 12.08pm BBC Any Questions going on about the poor and disabled having to 'despair'. That's one guarantee of a tory majority: ceaseless bleating about the 'vulnerable'. Not sure I can take 5 years of it. Maybe exceeded only by ceaseless battering of the "vulnerable"
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09 May 15 12.58pm

Quote Johnny Eagles at 09 May 2015 12.08pm

BBC Any Questions going on about the poor and disabled having to 'despair'.

That's one guarantee of a tory majority: ceaseless bleating about the 'vulnerable'.

Not sure I can take 5 years of it.

Maybe exceeded only by ceaseless battering of the "vulnerable"

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derben 09 May 15 1.27pm
Quote legaleagle at 09 May 2015 12.58pm Quote Johnny Eagles at 09 May 2015 12.08pm BBC Any Questions going on about the poor and disabled having to 'despair'. That's one guarantee of a tory majority: ceaseless bleating about the 'vulnerable'. Not sure I can take 5 years of it. Maybe exceeded only by ceaseless battering of the "vulnerable" How could the electorate be so stupid, or knowingly wicked, to vote for a government that will ceaselessly batter the vulnerable (isn't that in contravention of one of the many clauses of the Human Rights Act?) Edited by derben (09 May 2015 1.27pm)
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09 May 15 1.27pm

Quote legaleagle at 09 May 2015 12.58pm

Quote Johnny Eagles at 09 May 2015 12.08pm

BBC Any Questions going on about the poor and disabled having to 'despair'.

That's one guarantee of a tory majority: ceaseless bleating about the 'vulnerable'.

Not sure I can take 5 years of it.

Maybe exceeded only by ceaseless battering of the "vulnerable"

How could the electorate be so stupid, or knowingly wicked, to vote for a government that will ceaselessly batter the vulnerable (isn't that in contravention of one of the many clauses of the Human Rights Act?)

Edited by derben (09 May 2015 1.27pm)

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DanH SW2 09 May 15 1.31pm
Quote derben at 09 May 2015 1.27pm Quote legaleagle at 09 May 2015 12.58pm Quote Johnny Eagles at 09 May 2015 12.08pm BBC Any Questions going on about the poor and disabled having to 'despair'. That's one guarantee of a tory majority: ceaseless bleating about the 'vulnerable'. Not sure I can take 5 years of it. Maybe exceeded only by ceaseless battering of the "vulnerable" How could the electorate be so stupid, or knowingly wicked, to vote for a government that will ceaselessly batter the vulnerable (isn't that in contravention of one of the many clauses of the Human Rights Act?) Edited by derben (09 May 2015 1.27pm) The Human Rights Act which was in the Tory manifesto to scrap?
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DanH

SW2 09 May 15 1.31pm

Quote derben at 09 May 2015 1.27pm

Quote legaleagle at 09 May 2015 12.58pm

Quote Johnny Eagles at 09 May 2015 12.08pm

BBC Any Questions going on about the poor and disabled having to 'despair'.

That's one guarantee of a tory majority: ceaseless bleating about the 'vulnerable'.

Not sure I can take 5 years of it.

Maybe exceeded only by ceaseless battering of the "vulnerable"

Edited by derben (09 May 2015 1.27pm)

The Human Rights Act which was in the Tory manifesto to scrap?

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derben 09 May 15 1.37pm
Quote DanH at 09 May 2015 1.31pm Quote derben at 09 May 2015 1.27pm Quote legaleagle at 09 May 2015 12.58pm Quote Johnny Eagles at 09 May 2015 12.08pm BBC Any Questions going on about the poor and disabled having to 'despair'. That's one guarantee of a tory majority: ceaseless bleating about the 'vulnerable'. Not sure I can take 5 years of it. Maybe exceeded only by ceaseless battering of the "vulnerable" How could the electorate be so stupid, or knowingly wicked, to vote for a government that will ceaselessly batter the vulnerable (isn't that in contravention of one of the many clauses of the Human Rights Act?) Edited by derben (09 May 2015 1.27pm) The Human Rights Act which was in the Tory manifesto to scrap? Good - they are going to replace it with a British Bill of Rights (no doubt with a clause in it to stop ceaseless battering of the vulnerable. Edited by derben (09 May 2015 1.38pm)
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09 May 15 1.37pm

Quote DanH at 09 May 2015 1.31pm

Quote derben at 09 May 2015 1.27pm

Quote legaleagle at 09 May 2015 12.58pm

Quote Johnny Eagles at 09 May 2015 12.08pm

BBC Any Questions going on about the poor and disabled having to 'despair'.

That's one guarantee of a tory majority: ceaseless bleating about the 'vulnerable'.

Not sure I can take 5 years of it.

Maybe exceeded only by ceaseless battering of the "vulnerable"

Edited by derben (09 May 2015 1.27pm)

The Human Rights Act which was in the Tory manifesto to scrap?

Good - they are going to replace it with a British Bill of Rights (no doubt with a clause in it to stop ceaseless battering of the vulnerable.

Edited by derben (09 May 2015 1.38pm)

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DanH SW2 09 May 15 1.47pm
Quote derben at 09 May 2015 1.37pm Quote DanH at 09 May 2015 1.31pm Quote derben at 09 May 2015 1.27pm Quote legaleagle at 09 May 2015 12.58pm Quote Johnny Eagles at 09 May 2015 12.08pm BBC Any Questions going on about the poor and disabled having to 'despair'. That's one guarantee of a tory majority: ceaseless bleating about the 'vulnerable'. Not sure I can take 5 years of it. Maybe exceeded only by ceaseless battering of the "vulnerable" How could the electorate be so stupid, or knowingly wicked, to vote for a government that will ceaselessly batter the vulnerable (isn't that in contravention of one of the many clauses of the Human Rights Act?) Edited by derben (09 May 2015 1.27pm) The Human Rights Act which was in the Tory manifesto to scrap? Good - they are going to replace it with a British Bill of Rights (no doubt with a clause in it to stop ceaseless battering of the vulnerable. Edited by derben (09 May 2015 1.38pm) What part of the current Human Rights Act is so terrible out of interest?
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SW2 09 May 15 1.47pm

Quote derben at 09 May 2015 1.37pm

Quote DanH at 09 May 2015 1.31pm

Quote derben at 09 May 2015 1.27pm

Quote legaleagle at 09 May 2015 12.58pm

Quote Johnny Eagles at 09 May 2015 12.08pm

BBC Any Questions going on about the poor and disabled having to 'despair'.

That's one guarantee of a tory majority: ceaseless bleating about the 'vulnerable'.

Not sure I can take 5 years of it.

Maybe exceeded only by ceaseless battering of the "vulnerable"

Edited by derben (09 May 2015 1.27pm)

The Human Rights Act which was in the Tory manifesto to scrap?

Good - they are going to replace it with a British Bill of Rights (no doubt with a clause in it to stop ceaseless battering of the vulnerable.

Edited by derben (09 May 2015 1.38pm)

What part of the current Human Rights Act is so terrible out of interest?

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JL85 London,SE9 09 May 15 1.49pm
Quote Bubbs at 09 May 2015 11.58am Quote JL85 at 09 May 2015 6.20am Quote Bubbs at 09 May 2015 5.18am Quote JL85 at 08 May 2015 8.16pm Does anyone know why the last 2 elections were 5 years apart and the previous 2 4 years? This was the first election that was a fixed 5 year term, which means that the date of the election is set in stone 5 years after the last one. Previous elections were up to the discretion of the incumbent Government. They could call an election anytime they wanted within the 5 year limit. Obviously, Governments would wait for the optimum moment to call one when they thought their stock was highest. Very much a game of poker. When Tony Blair stepped down and let Brown in as PM, 2 years into his term; there was strong speculation that Brown, for credibility and fairness as he was unelected by the country, would call an election to get the mandate of the people. He was in his honeymoon period with the public and would almost certainly had won. He decided not to. Roll on a year, and the banking crisis and suddenly his popularity plummeted; so he stretched out his term to the 5 year limit in the hope that his fortunes could turn. He must look back on his decision not to go to the country in 2007/8 and kick himself. Edited by Bubbs (09 May 2015 5.23am) Thanks Bubbs. I liked Brown, he was a s*e PM but a rather genuine guy. I spent the best part of 6 years working at both the Treasury and Foreign Office and had the displeasure of meeting a fair few MP's and Blair himself. Blair was a t, as was David Miliband. Brown was alright. Always polite and friendly and would often sit and have breakfast amongst the workers. Also remember Ed Balls and thinking he was a a bit of a nob. Probably because of his surname, but I was 17 at the time. Edited by JL85 (09 May 2015 6.38am) Wow, that's some job to have as a youngster being exposed to that. That was the sad thing about Brown: he let his spin doctors dictate how he should present himself and it just came out all wrong. They should've just let him act naturally and it would've come across so much better. The smiling thing was painful to watch. Apprentice maintenance engineer Someone's got to unblock their s**ters Edited by JL85 (09 May 2015 1.50pm)
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London,SE9 09 May 15 1.49pm

Quote Bubbs at 09 May 2015 11.58am

Quote JL85 at 09 May 2015 6.20am

Quote Bubbs at 09 May 2015 5.18am

Quote JL85 at 08 May 2015 8.16pm

Does anyone know why the last 2 elections were 5 years apart and the previous 2 4 years?

This was the first election that was a fixed 5 year term, which means that the date of the election is set in stone 5 years after the last one.

Previous elections were up to the discretion of the incumbent Government. They could call an election anytime they wanted within the 5 year limit.

Obviously, Governments would wait for the optimum moment to call one when they thought their stock was highest. Very much a game of poker.

Roll on a year, and the banking crisis and suddenly his popularity plummeted; so he stretched out his term to the 5 year limit in the hope that his fortunes could turn.

He must look back on his decision not to go to the country in 2007/8 and kick himself.

Edited by Bubbs (09 May 2015 5.23am)

Thanks Bubbs.

Blair was a t***, as was David Miliband. Brown was alright. Always polite and friendly and would often sit and have breakfast amongst the workers.

Also remember Ed Balls and thinking he was a a bit of a nob. Probably because of his surname, but I was 17 at the time.

Edited by JL85 (09 May 2015 6.38am)

Wow, that's some job to have as a youngster being exposed to that.

Apprentice maintenance engineer

Someone's got to unblock their s***ters

Edited by JL85 (09 May 2015 1.50pm)

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Johnny Eagles berlin 09 May 15 2.04pm
Quote derben at 09 May 2015 1.37pm Quote DanH at 09 May 2015 1.31pm Quote derben at 09 May 2015 1.27pm Quote legaleagle at 09 May 2015 12.58pm Quote Johnny Eagles at 09 May 2015 12.08pm BBC Any Questions going on about the poor and disabled having to 'despair'. That's one guarantee of a tory majority: ceaseless bleating about the 'vulnerable'. Not sure I can take 5 years of it. Maybe exceeded only by ceaseless battering of the "vulnerable" How could the electorate be so stupid, or knowingly wicked, to vote for a government that will ceaselessly batter the vulnerable (isn't that in contravention of one of the many clauses of the Human Rights Act?) Edited by derben (09 May 2015 1.27pm) The Human Rights Act which was in the Tory manifesto to scrap? Good - they are going to replace it with a British Bill of Rights (no doubt with a clause in it to stop ceaseless battering of the vulnerable. Edited by derben (09 May 2015 1.38pm) We've had a Bill of Rights for over 300 years. ...we must expand...get more pupils...so that the knowledge will spread...
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berlin 09 May 15 2.04pm

Quote derben at 09 May 2015 1.37pm

Quote DanH at 09 May 2015 1.31pm

Quote derben at 09 May 2015 1.27pm

Quote legaleagle at 09 May 2015 12.58pm

Quote Johnny Eagles at 09 May 2015 12.08pm

BBC Any Questions going on about the poor and disabled having to 'despair'.

That's one guarantee of a tory majority: ceaseless bleating about the 'vulnerable'.

Not sure I can take 5 years of it.

Maybe exceeded only by ceaseless battering of the "vulnerable"

Edited by derben (09 May 2015 1.27pm)

The Human Rights Act which was in the Tory manifesto to scrap?

Good - they are going to replace it with a British Bill of Rights (no doubt with a clause in it to stop ceaseless battering of the vulnerable.

Edited by derben (09 May 2015 1.38pm)

We've had a Bill of Rights for over 300 years.

...we must expand...get more pupils...so that the knowledge will spread...

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susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 09 May 15 2.21pm
Quote Johnny Eagles at 08 May 2015 4.47pm Bennett has just confirmed she's staying on as leader of the greens! They really are clueless. Should read "Useless" Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.
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PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 09 May 15 2.21pm

Quote Johnny Eagles at 08 May 2015 4.47pm

Bennett has just confirmed she's staying on as leader of the greens!

They really are clueless.

Should read "Useless"

Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

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