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View RichardJP's Profile RichardJP Flag Epsom 14 Feb 24 2.30pm Send a Private Message to RichardJP Add RichardJP as a friend

I definitely want to see the back of Roy and as soon as possible. But maybe it is prudent to wait for the right person to takel us forward into next season. I am a big fan of McKenna and think he'd be a great fit at Palace. Obviously if Ipswich get promotion, he won't be available.

Talk of Southgate is surely ridiculous. Managing the elite from your country is a very different game from managing a football club and Southgate has almost no experience at club level.

As for long ball football, wow. If the ball isn't in your possession, then it's most likely going to end up in the opposition's. Like an awful, wild clearance from goal, unless it's passed accurately, then it's just coming straight back at you. The days of long ball are dead.

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 14 Feb 24 2.35pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

This is a tough one for Parish.

Normally, sustained poor results and a dose of fan disquiet do for a manager. In this case, there are other very significant factors.

The big one is injuries and the timing of returns for those players. We know that our performances are far better with Olise and Eze on the field, and perhaps just Eze and Guehi returning will improve things.
Along with that, there seems to be serious doubt about the calibre of any replacement available at this stage of the season and the knock on effect to next season.
Finally, as we are not currently in the relegation zone, there is a level of uncertainty as to how much panic is warranted.

This isn't just a question of Hodgson bad. It is a perfect storm for indecision.

 

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View pssguy's Profile pssguy Flag 14 Feb 24 3.11pm Send a Private Message to pssguy Add pssguy as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

This is a tough one for Parish.

Normally, sustained poor results and a dose of fan disquiet do for a manager. In this case, there are other very significant factors.

The big one is injuries and the timing of returns for those players. We know that our performances are far better with Olise and Eze on the field, and perhaps just Eze and Guehi returning will improve things.
Along with that, there seems to be serious doubt about the calibre of any replacement available at this stage of the season and the knock on effect to next season.
Finally, as we are not currently in the relegation zone, there is a level of uncertainty as to how much panic is warranted.

This isn't just a question of Hodgson bad. It is a perfect storm for indecision.

And there may well be until the end of the season. I suspect the FA are sweating on Everton and Forest's point counts. They will either want a team relegated on point count alone or so well clear that they can apply a defendable points deduction that still keeps them safe. Forest finishing, say, in 17th 3 points ahead of Palace is probably their worst nightmare

 

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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 14 Feb 24 3.27pm Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

This is a tough one for Parish.

Normally, sustained poor results and a dose of fan disquiet do for a manager. In this case, there are other very significant factors.

The big one is injuries and the timing of returns for those players. We know that our performances are far better with Olise and Eze on the field, and perhaps just Eze and Guehi returning will improve things.
Along with that, there seems to be serious doubt about the calibre of any replacement available at this stage of the season and the knock on effect to next season.
Finally, as we are not currently in the relegation zone, there is a level of uncertainty as to how much panic is warranted.

This isn't just a question of Hodgson bad. It is a perfect storm for indecision.

Although it would appear that a great many would like to see Hodgson gone now, this is a well reasoned post. I don't think Hodgson is going anywhere until the end of the season. It looks like either Parish has someone lined up for next season in mind already, depending on circumstance (PL survival), or he can't attract anyone suitable of note in the here and now to replace Hodgson for the remainder of the season. Hodgson should have gone long before now based on Parish's historical record with other managers.
Understandable really, word does tend to get round in the workplace.

Edited by southnorwoodhill (14 Feb 2024 4.21pm)

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 14 Feb 24 3.28pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by RichardJP

I definitely want to see the back of Roy and as soon as possible. But maybe it is prudent to wait for the right person to takel us forward into next season. I am a big fan of McKenna and think he'd be a great fit at Palace. Obviously if Ipswich get promotion, he won't be available.

Talk of Southgate is surely ridiculous. Managing the elite from your country is a very different game from managing a football club and Southgate has almost no experience at club level.

As for long ball football, wow. If the ball isn't in your possession, then it's most likely going to end up in the opposition's. Like an awful, wild clearance from goal, unless it's passed accurately, then it's just coming straight back at you. The days of long ball are dead.

It's possible to be far more direct than we are without it being long ball football as per the eighties. Two things we could do immediately are:

Free kicks: get them straight into the box more or less from wherever they are - except perhaps right in our own half.

Passing out from the back: instead of side to side and backwards, get the ball upfield quicker. We could consider perhaps Munoz, Ayew and Mateta as targets - they need to make the runs.

I believe both would speed up our tempo and reduce the pressing our midfield and defence come under.

One thing that has been annoying me is sideways pass, sideways pass, back pass. The other is free kicks ending up with our keeper with no attacking advantage gained at all. You can't help but feel the shape and system Roy employs isn't working, hasn't worked and needs to change. Hence many calling for a new manager, myself included.

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 14 Feb 24 3.35pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by pssguy

And there may well be until the end of the season. I suspect the FA are sweating on Everton and Forest's point counts. They will either want a team relegated on point count alone or so well clear that they can apply a defendable points deduction that still keeps them safe. Forest finishing, say, in 17th 3 points ahead of Palace is probably their worst nightmare

I don't think Everton will be in trouble unless they get a further deduction. It seems unlikely that their current deduction will be overturned but they will stay up regardless.
I suspect that any punishment Forest get will be next season.

Of course, there is the Man City situation. If they were relegated, it would mean only two going down. Sadly, I can't see the FA having the balls to do it.

 

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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Online Flag London 14 Feb 24 3.40pm Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I don't think Everton will be in trouble unless they get a further deduction. It seems unlikely that their current deduction will be overturned but they will stay up regardless.
I suspect that any punishment Forest get will be next season.

Of course, there is the Man City situation. If they were relegated, it would mean only two going down. Sadly, I can't see the FA having the balls to do it.

The FA know if they send Man City down, the Premier is over and Super League will commence. They can see what the Arabs are bringing to the top level. Big bucks. Bloody huge in fact, with plenty more to come. Dont bite the hand that feeds you.

 

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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Online Flag London 14 Feb 24 3.43pm Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Originally posted by RichardJP

I definitely want to see the back of Roy and as soon as possible. But maybe it is prudent to wait for the right person to takel us forward into next season. I am a big fan of McKenna and think he'd be a great fit at Palace. Obviously if Ipswich get promotion, he won't be available.

Talk of Southgate is surely ridiculous. Managing the elite from your country is a very different game from managing a football club and Southgate has almost no experience at club level.

As for long ball football, wow. If the ball isn't in your possession, then it's most likely going to end up in the opposition's. Like an awful, wild clearance from goal, unless it's passed accurately, then it's just coming straight back at you. The days of long ball are dead.

Totally with you on the management.

With regard to long ball, if they change the offside rule to give the attacker another metre allowance (eg. Onside if any part of the body overlaps a defender body part) well then I could see long balls working again.

 

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 14 Feb 24 3.44pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

The FA know if they send Man City down, the Premier is over and Super League will commence. They can see what the Arabs are bringing to the top level. Big bucks. Bloody huge in fact, with plenty more to come. Dont bite the hand that feeds you.

Why would a league with just 5 super clubs competing for the title be ‘over’?

The Saudi league is already starting to collapse on itself with rubbish attendances and players struggling to settle - I can’t see that being a big thing too much longer.

It takes a lot more than funding to make a great league, and that applies to both the PL and the Saudi league.

 

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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Online Flag London 14 Feb 24 3.44pm Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

If Southgate ends up here I will not be renewing my ST

 

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View Ginger Pubic Wig's Profile Ginger Pubic Wig Flag Wickham de L'Ouest 14 Feb 24 3.55pm Send a Private Message to Ginger Pubic Wig Add Ginger Pubic Wig as a friend

Southgate would be a disappointing choice. Let him cut his teeth some place else. Which is admittedly a weird thing to say about an England manager

 


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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I don't think Everton will be in trouble unless they get a further deduction. It seems unlikely that their current deduction will be overturned but they will stay up regardless.
I suspect that any punishment Forest get will be next season.

Of course, there is the Man City situation. If they were relegated, it would mean only two going down. Sadly, I can't see the FA having the balls to do it.

You do know they are facing a 2nd charge

 


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