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 Hrolf The Ganger  18 Mar 24 8.25am |
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Originally posted by The Dolphin
This is meant to be about the BBC? We changed the channel.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 18 Mar 24 8.48am |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
I have stopped engaging with him directly. I find the know it all attitude and delusions of adequacy simply unbearable, others may have entirely different views.
I can see the point you make about having a degree of use, albeit a small one Refer to my signature about RDD Edited by HKOwen (18 Mar 2024 12.20am) I welcome you not responding to me directly. Continuous rudeness is boring. You are though obsessed with some kind of irrational dislike of me, which is an odd phenomenon. It won't though stop me from commenting on some of the things you claim. There is only one "know it all" poster here and it isn't me. We all know who that is. It may have escaped your notice but there are many subjects I avoid completely. Why? Because I don't know enough to make a contribution. For the avoidance of doubt my opinions are not facts. Facts are facts and if I state one I will say so. If I don't it's an opinion.
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| georgenorman 18 Mar 24 9.38am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I welcome you not responding to me directly. Continuous rudeness is boring. You are though obsessed with some kind of irrational dislike of me, which is an odd phenomenon. It won't though stop me from commenting on some of the things you claim. There is only one "know it all" poster here and it isn't me. We all know who that is. It may have escaped your notice but there are many subjects I avoid completely. Why? Because I don't know enough to make a contribution. For the avoidance of doubt my opinions are not facts. Facts are facts and if I state one I will say so. If I don't it's an opinion. If you think that people on here disliking you is an 'odd phenomenon', then you are even more deluded than we thought.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 18 Mar 24 10.06am |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
If you think that people on here disliking you is an 'odd phenomenon', then you are even more deluded than we thought. It's probably fair to say that an Internet persona will only be a small element of someone's real world personality. I would guess that I am probably nothing like people might perceive from here, and I hope to god for Wisbech's sake that he is a much more likeable fellow in real life and is not as combative when not in a defensive posture. Of course the fact that he is happy to see his offspring become a minority and his totally irrational loyalty to Brussels is hard to swallow. I'm sure his friends are all likewise deluded. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (18 Mar 2024 10.08am)
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 becky over the moon 18 Mar 24 1.34pm |
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MODERATION POST This thread has become nothing more than a commentary on/defense of people's opinions of other posters. Please return to commenting on the BBC and not on other posters Thank You
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eagleman13  On The Road To Hell & Alicante 18 Mar 24 2.24pm |
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#defundthebbc
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 18 Mar 24 2.35pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
This is a great post... Because it displays your incredible ignorance. First. Neanderthals disappeared because there were far fewer of them than modern humans. We still carry a few percent of their genes. They were absorbed. Evidence suggests that they were sophisticated and actually had bigger brains than us. There is no evidence that they were 'dominated' other than in numbers. Fact. The proportion of migrants has risen rapidly in the past 50 years. Conclusion. The only way to avoid becoming a minority and eventually non existent is to halt mass migration. Your assertion relies on a total reversal of current policy and a deluded belief that a desire to migrate to Europe will decline. Can you point to any evidence that this is likely to happen? I will indeed return to the BBC after I have answered the claims made in the above, which ought not, in my opinion, be allowed to stand unchallenged. What is true is that no-one knows for sure exactly what triggered the decline and eventual extinction of the Neanderthals. There is still a lot of debate about it as can be read here:- What is certain is they weren't simply absorbed. Something caused Homo sapiens to dominate. Their brains are thought to have been around the same size as ours, some think perhaps even bigger, but since when did size matter? It's how you use it. I would have thought you understood that principle! We developed skills that either by good fortune, or deliberate application, enabled us to survive and prosper, whilst the Neanderthals did not. You clearly have not read the link I provided to the "Migration Observatory". Please do. They have much more experience and knowledge than anyone posting here. What they suggest will happen are not my assertions. They are there's. Here it is again:- Nothing you suggest will happen fits with the scenario described within the above. I am sure you will try to challenge the work of the Migration Observatory and claim it's politically biased etc, etc. It isn't:- I am sure the BBC, being our responsible public broadcaster who are trusted the world over to deliver well researched facts and opinions, would totally agree with the Migration Observatory's analysis.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 18 Mar 24 2.57pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I will indeed return to the BBC after I have answered the claims made in the above, which ought not, in my opinion, be allowed to stand unchallenged. What is true is that no-one knows for sure exactly what triggered the decline and eventual extinction of the Neanderthals. There is still a lot of debate about it as can be read here:- What is certain is they weren't simply absorbed. Something caused Homo sapiens to dominate. Their brains are thought to have been around the same size as ours, some think perhaps even bigger, but since when did size matter? It's how you use it. I would have thought you understood that principle! We developed skills that either by good fortune, or deliberate application, enabled us to survive and prosper, whilst the Neanderthals did not. You clearly have not read the link I provided to the "Migration Observatory". Please do. They have much more experience and knowledge than anyone posting here. What they suggest will happen are not my assertions. They are there's. Here it is again:- Nothing you suggest will happen fits with the scenario described within the above. I am sure you will try to challenge the work of the Migration Observatory and claim it's politically biased etc, etc. It isn't:- I am sure the BBC, being our responsible public broadcaster who are trusted the world over to deliver well researched facts and opinions, would totally agree with the Migration Observatory's analysis. Of course you are, because you are that gullible. There is speculation, extrapolation, pure propaganda and then facts. Fact. The immigrant population has grown rapidly. Speculation. Migration is very likely to increase due to climate change, increasing global population and greater friction between various groups. You and the BBC are denying facts and employing spin based on nothing. How high would the percentage of non White British have to be before you stopped this ridiculous pretence?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 18 Mar 24 5.25pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Of course you are, because you are that gullible. There is speculation, extrapolation, pure propaganda and then facts. Fact. The immigrant population has grown rapidly. Speculation. Migration is very likely to increase due to climate change, increasing global population and greater friction between various groups. You and the BBC are denying facts and employing spin based on nothing. How high would the percentage of non White British have to be before you stopped this ridiculous pretence? You still haven't read it have you? Do you believe you instinctively know better than specialised researchers? Let's look at your 4 "facts"! None of which are actually facts. 1) The immigrant population has grown. Whether rapidly is an opinion, not a fact. 2) Whether immigration is increasing depends on future unknown events, so is not a fact. It is speculation which is more likely, in the short term, to prove true, but in the longer term is not. 3) European birth rate has fallen. Whether it continues is also speculation, not fact. 4) Migrant birth rates are higher primarily because their average age is lower than those here already. Once settled it falls to around the same level. So it is not a fact that this will permanently increase the population levels. Do you not think that research specialists take into account the impact of things like climate change? This is an area with so many unknowns that making reliable predictions must be near to impossible. So at least one of your statements is almost correct. I've altered a key word:- "None of your facts can be used to extrapolate a prediction for the future make up of the British population." As I reject the concept of a "White" and "Non-White" division between British people there is no answer to your silly question. All that matters to me is the way people behave, the values they hold and the respect they show for our country, its culture and heritage. Those things are important. Skin colour is not. That work needs to be done with some immigrant groups to ensure those expectations are met is clearly true. So is the fact that time helps to achieve that. As I said a while ago none of these things proceed in straight lines and your extrapolations all make the error of assuming they do. Please read, digest and understand the report by The Migration Observatory.
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| eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 18 Mar 24 5.51pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
You still haven't read it have you? Do you believe you instinctively know better than specialised researchers? Let's look at your 4 "facts"! None of which are actually facts. 1) The immigrant population has grown. Whether rapidly is an opinion, not a fact. 2) Whether immigration is increasing depends on future unknown events, so is not a fact. It is speculation which is more likely, in the short term, to prove true, but in the longer term is not. 3) European birth rate has fallen. Whether it continues is also speculation, not fact. 4) Migrant birth rates are higher primarily because their average age is lower than those here already. Once settled it falls to around the same level. So it is not a fact that this will permanently increase the population levels. Do you not think that research specialists take into account the impact of things like climate change? This is an area with so many unknowns that making reliable predictions must be near to impossible. So at least one of your statements is almost correct. I've altered a key word:- "None of your facts can be used to extrapolate a prediction for the future make up of the British population." As I reject the concept of a "White" and "Non-White" division between British people there is no answer to your silly question. All that matters to me is the way people behave, the values they hold and the respect they show for our country, its culture and heritage. Those things are important. Skin colour is not. That work needs to be done with some immigrant groups to ensure those expectations are met is clearly true. So is the fact that time helps to achieve that. As I said a while ago none of these things proceed in straight lines and your extrapolations all make the error of assuming they do. Please read, digest and understand the report by The Migration Observatory. Err, 'scuse me, this is about that woke left wing biased bbc or had you forgot. Yellow suits you xx
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| Hrolf The Ganger 18 Mar 24 6.44pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
You still haven't read it have you? Do you believe you instinctively know better than specialised researchers? Let's look at your 4 "facts"! None of which are actually facts. 1) The immigrant population has grown. Whether rapidly is an opinion, not a fact. 2) Whether immigration is increasing depends on future unknown events, so is not a fact. It is speculation which is more likely, in the short term, to prove true, but in the longer term is not. 3) European birth rate has fallen. Whether it continues is also speculation, not fact. 4) Migrant birth rates are higher primarily because their average age is lower than those here already. Once settled it falls to around the same level. So it is not a fact that this will permanently increase the population levels. Do you not think that research specialists take into account the impact of things like climate change? This is an area with so many unknowns that making reliable predictions must be near to impossible. So at least one of your statements is almost correct. I've altered a key word:- "None of your facts can be used to extrapolate a prediction for the future make up of the British population." As I reject the concept of a "White" and "Non-White" division between British people there is no answer to your silly question. All that matters to me is the way people behave, the values they hold and the respect they show for our country, its culture and heritage. Those things are important. Skin colour is not. That work needs to be done with some immigrant groups to ensure those expectations are met is clearly true. So is the fact that time helps to achieve that. As I said a while ago none of these things proceed in straight lines and your extrapolations all make the error of assuming they do. Please read, digest and understand the report by The Migration Observatory. I'm done arguing on this subject. You don't seem to be able to comprehend basic realities. You simply adjust reality to fit your own ideology. You believe the BBC if you like. I will believe demonstrable facts and the evidence I see with my own eyes.
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 18 Mar 24 9.47pm |
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Originally posted by eagleman13
#defundthebbc de-fund them of your money. boycott them of your brain. tell your MP to shut down the BBC
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