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View Y Ddraig Goch's Profile Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 23 May 17 10.26am Send a Private Message to Y Ddraig Goch Add Y Ddraig Goch as a friend

Originally posted by VeganPower

He's still alive

That's a no then

 


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View Y Ddraig Goch's Profile Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 23 May 17 10.30am Send a Private Message to Y Ddraig Goch Add Y Ddraig Goch as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

It does appear some food has properties which have serious benefits according to some research although not sold as a 'cure'.

A few of the cancer cell killing nutrients in vegetables:
Raw Carrots (alpha carotene, beta carotene, Vitamin E, etc.),
Raw Broccoli (sulforaphane/isothiocyanates),
Raw cabbage (isothiocyanates),
Green Asparagus (saponins),
Beetroot/red beets (proanthocyanidins

There is a lot of evidence that certain foods can kill cells. That is a long way from a cure.

Vitamin C in particular has had a lot of research. That is in addition to other treatments. Also the dose was several hundred times more than you could possibly get through diet. So lets not kid ourselves that eating a few more parsnips is going to cure you.

 


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VeganPower Flag Chesham 23 May 17 10.32am

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

That's a no then

It's a "I don't know" she doesn't take the piss anymore, he's still alive

 


22 years eating a vegan diet. Perfectly happy and healthy on it.

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VeganPower Flag Chesham 23 May 17 10.34am

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

There is a lot of evidence that certain foods can kill cells. That is a long way from a cure.

Vitamin C in particular has had a lot of research. That is in addition to other treatments. Also the dose was several hundred times more than you could possibly get through diet. So lets not kid ourselves that eating a few more parsnips is going to cure you.

There is a lot of evidence to suggest that eating moe veg and less red meat/processed meat is a really good idea for avoiding a whole range of illnesses including cancer, heart disease, diabetes.


 


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View Y Ddraig Goch's Profile Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 23 May 17 10.36am Send a Private Message to Y Ddraig Goch Add Y Ddraig Goch as a friend

Originally posted by VeganPower

There is a lot of evidence to suggest that eating moe veg and less red meat/processed meat is a really good idea for avoiding a whole range of illnesses including cancer, heart disease, diabetes.


I refer you to previous pages where I clearly said the amount and quality of meat that we eat is the issue, not meat itself

 


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View SeagullHunter's Profile SeagullHunter Flag Reading 23 May 17 10.47am Send a Private Message to SeagullHunter Add SeagullHunter as a friend

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

Cure cancer? Bulls***.

So that would be to process meat products as opposed to plant based that are mainly digested quickly?

Eating meat tradition? Yes of course, 2 million years of "tradition"

I was exactly in the same mindset as you, about 5 months ago, so i can completely understand your mindset - something that is so close to our hearts, we dont want to ever question or change, but its reality sadly.

I'm not saying it does cure cancer, purely that it CAN, and has been proven to. Don't get me wrong, eating meat for survival is what I would do too, if we needed it to survive, and is what our ancestor Hunter-gatherers did. But 80% of their diets came from grains and wholefoods. Tradition has only been of the past 250 years. Look at the past Kings and queens, the ones who all died of illnesses, their meat consumption was through the roof - why? Because the could afford it. The only difference now is there are more Kings and Queens that can afford to consume said product.

Lowest rates of cancer are found in rural China, rural Japan, parts of rural Africa. Nutrition experts studied for years and attributed this to a plant-based diet. Where are rates of cancer most pertinent? Where meat consumption is highest, U.S.A, U.K.... W

With regards to the digestive system point, please just read and educate yourself. I will never be able to 'convert' you, nor will I try to, I believe if people want to change they must do so themselves, educate themselves and read about the subject. There is suitable evidence regarding the composition of our teeth, to our digestive tract, to why our diets require large amount of fibre (a nutrient which is absent in animal products).

Osteoporosis is another one that some health academics even DIRECTLY attribute to meat consumption


Edited by SeagullHunter (23 May 2017 10.48am)

 


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VeganPower Flag Chesham 23 May 17 10.55am

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

I refer you to previous pages where I clearly said the amount and quality of meat that we eat is the issue, not meat itself

but that's not entirely true is it

 


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View Part Time James's Profile Part Time James Flag 23 May 17 11.07am Send a Private Message to Part Time James Add Part Time James as a friend

Originally posted by VeganPower

All steak has ecoli - if you eat less than medium you risk getting food poisoning

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VeganPower Flag Chesham 23 May 17 12.26pm

and how many cases of food poisoning from meat in that time?

 


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View Y Ddraig Goch's Profile Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 23 May 17 12.29pm Send a Private Message to Y Ddraig Goch Add Y Ddraig Goch as a friend

Originally posted by VeganPower

but that's not entirely true is it

Well, yes it is

 


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View Part Time James's Profile Part Time James Flag 23 May 17 12.34pm Send a Private Message to Part Time James Add Part Time James as a friend

Originally posted by VeganPower

and how many cases of food poisoning from meat in that time?

No idea, it wasn't my point.

Still, welcome to the forum, you don't have to post entirely in here, you're welcome in all the threads.

 




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View susmik's Profile susmik Flag PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 23 May 17 4.38pm Send a Private Message to susmik Add susmik as a friend

Originally posted by VeganPower

My aunt used to take the piss out of me for being a vegan, till her husband got cancer and the doc put him on a vegan diet

I have had lung cancer which half my lung was removed.. I was NOT put on Vegan diet. I also had prostate cancer 16 years ago which I had 3 ops and radiotherapy which put it into remission until last year when it came back again and I am having injections and tablets to combat it. STILL no vegan diet was prescribed so in all I think what you say about a cancer cure by going on a vegan is a load of b0llocks. I will stick with my oncologist and the treatment he is giving me.

 


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