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 Stirlingsays Online  28 Oct 17 9.57pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
You don't need that. History has already told us the results of your way of thinking. You fail. Edited by Kermit8 (28 Oct 2017 9.52pm)
Yeah ok Kermy. My way of thinking isn't in charge of policy, your is, so we will see where your stance takes us.
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Kermy goes to 'Godwin's law'.| Hrolf The Ganger 28 Oct 17 9.58pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Well you are going to get more of one and less of the other. As Mick said - 'you can't always get what you want' I understand your logic but there was only one of them was up for a decision in the referendum.
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Kermit8  Hevon 28 Oct 17 10.00pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Yeah ok Kermy. My way of thinking isn't in charge of policy, your is, so we will see where your stance takes us. I wasn't specifically thinking of 1933-45 but just of any era/regime that does the politics of 'them and us' division. Put Godwin back in his box.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 28 Oct 17 10.01pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
The EU has never decided our non-EU immigration and that is exactly the immigration that most are seemingly concerned about. All you have done is voted for more of the same with regard to that. Do you want more Muslims and less Europeans? Vote 'Leave' for 'yes' This stuff is really bonkers - even for you. Of course we all know the EU does not decide non-EU immigration. You are making this absurd assertion that a non-EU Britain would engineer mass Islamic immigration - there is absolutely nothing to suggest that might happen, and due to the massive problems we have experienced with our Islamic 'communities', it is hardly likely they would want more of it. Also the large numbers of Muslims settling in EU countries does mean that EU freedom of movement is leading to Islamic EU immigration. Edited by hedgehog50 (28 Oct 2017 10.02pm)
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| Hrolf The Ganger 28 Oct 17 10.03pm |
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He posts a lot of sense actually while you waste our time making daft comparisons and obsessing about Nazis from Mars.
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| Kermit8 Hevon 28 Oct 17 10.04pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I understand your logic but there was only one of them was up for a decision in the referendum. And I understand yours but for purposes of economic practicality then it is inevitable that with less EU migration we will have more non-EU migration. Daft thing is is that the latter is probably an issue that could unite us (the vast majority) rather than divide us as the EU Ref has done.
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| Stirlingsays Online 28 Oct 17 10.05pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
I wasn't specifically thinking of 1933-45 but just of any era/regime that does the politics of 'them and us' division. Put Godwin back in his box. Yeah, Islamic reformers are 'them and us'...jeepers. Like I say, I'm looking forward to the success of your policies on this issue.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 28 Oct 17 10.06pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
And I understand yours but for purposes of economic practicality then it is inevitable that with less EU migration we will have more non-EU migration. Daft thing is is that the latter is probably an issue that could unite us (the vast majority) rather than divide us as the EU Ref has done. We were already divided.
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| Kermit8 Hevon 28 Oct 17 10.10pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
This stuff is really bonkers - even for you. Of course we all know the EU does not decide non-EU immigration. You are making this absurd assertion that a non-EU Britain would engineer mass Islamic immigration - there is absolutely nothing to suggest that might happen, and due to the massive problems we have experienced with our Islamic 'communities', it is hardly likely they would want more of it. Also the large numbers of Muslims settling in EU countries does mean that EU freedom of movement is leading to Islamic EU immigration. Edited by hedgehog50 (28 Oct 2017 10.02pm) You need to look at where non-EU migration actually comes from - "The largest numbers of non-EU labour migrants are nationals of Asian countries" - MigrationWatch. Now I never mentioned "mass islamic immigration" - you did. But I think we both agree that Muslim immigration will now go up because of the Leave vote. How could it not?
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| Kermit8 Hevon 28 Oct 17 10.14pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Yeah, Islamic reformers are 'them and us'...jeepers. Like I say, I'm looking forward to the success of your policies on this issue. You are not an Islamic reformer. You just nod when that 'ex' extremist talks on his radio show. I guess you didn't watch 'Make Me A Muslim' on C4 a few nights back? The subject was the female version of you. Worth a peek.
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| Stirlingsays Online 28 Oct 17 10.22pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
You are not an Islamic reformer. You just nod when that 'ex' extremist talks on his radio show. I guess you didn't watch 'Make Me A Muslim' on C4 a few nights back? The subject was the female version of you. Worth a peek. You are calling me a liar now. I always tell the truth about my beliefs. But sure Kermit, whatever you think.
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| Kermit8 Hevon 28 Oct 17 10.25pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
You are calling me a liar now. I always tell the truth about my beliefs. But sure Kermit, whatever you think. Watch the programme please. I would be genuinely interested on your take of it.
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