A bit ridiculous to say but I'll take it as a more sincere point.

Will depend on the manner of the defeats... if they come. There's the Hodgson style 'where on earth will we ever even get a goal from/why can't we defend or score from set pieces/why are we playing for 0-0 every game and still losing' and then there's a more promising manner of defeat in which we do look a decent outfit but have key players out and don't get the rub of the green.

Beating a poor, 10 man Burnley is no yardstick but our general play immediately looked lightyears ahead of what we've seen this season. I actually thought the game wasn't going our way and we really did look sore for not having key players, of a superior quality. The difference was though that eventually the new style, as I saw it, triumphed and saw us through to a rather modest 3-0 victory. Under Roy that could well not have been the case.

Subs were used at the right time and effectively, we looked to have more width, we were on the front foot, actually had a plan for getting forward and creating chances and even looked to have a corner routine or two up our sleeves beyond just throwing it in there. This is all promising. Every single player looked different and improved and the collective unit looked far more effective than the pub football siloes in which they used to operate.

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

I would also add that this was probably our first win since the opening day against Sheffield Utd where we seemed completely in control for the whole game. Even at 2-0 we continued to press for more goals. Yes it is just one game against one of the weakest teams in the PL, but I thought it was a far more dominant and controlled performance than our recent win against Sheffield Utd who are just as bad as Burnley and we had Olise, Eze and Guehi in that game.

good point. Other than the Forest game when we were down to bare bones, these are the type of game you need to get something from.
To not win at least one of those 4 home games is unacceptable.

I agree with most of you that the only one not playing well was Edouard. So let us concentrate on encouraging those that did play well and not keep banging on about those injured players. Yes we all want to see them back because it is very likely to improve our team but continuing to give minutes to the young players that have performed so well is a must for our future. Look at what happened in the cup final!

With regard to JPM, I used to think he was a statue wheeled on at the start and off at the end of the game, but now he moves, and what a difference. If he could improve his judgement others could work off him with more confidence.

I feel your pessimism Painter. We have all experienced the same season. However, we clung on only a few weeks back to just about scrape the 3 points against Sheff Utd. OK no red cards, but an even worse team than Burnley.

This time, other than the disallowed goal, Burnley barely got a sniff.

I think we will lose 1-0 to Spurs (Son) as that is now a trend set in stone, but we were manifestly better than the same Palace team of very recent history; and the new guy has yet to set his style.

Judge us not on Saturday but on Luton.

Hopefully our susceptibility to crosses is a coaching issue which OG's new staff can work on.