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View Westina's Profile Westina Flag 22 Aug 23 9.22am Send a Private Message to Westina Add Westina as a friend

Accepting we didn’t deserve to win last night and coming away pleased with our overall performance ( except we should have peppered the goal more) I feel very frustrated about how Arsenal conducted themselves.
I watch players time wasting which I suppose is a part of our game but the level of time wasting last night was disappointing..and what made it even worse was Arteta talking about using stop watches to time players taking throw ins….he said it was 8 seconds…what an idiot as it was over 40 seconds between two players who were involved.
There was also little mention by all the Arsenal people like Piers mouth Morgan who complained bitterly about the sending off but nothing about the fact that the Arsenal penalty should have been disallowed as our defender was illegally blocked off denying us the ability to defend properly…this is cheating.
So time wasting cheating Arsenal are joint top of the league.
I hope that fair play City and even the scum on the south coast finish higher.

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 22 Aug 23 9.29am Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

what you say is correct. However, the two yellows for the fella removed, they were harsh.

we had 25 minutes against ten men. The chequebook won in the end.

 


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View rikz's Profile rikz Flag Croydon 22 Aug 23 9.51am Send a Private Message to rikz Add rikz as a friend

Let's be honest the worst decision of the game was the 2nd yellow, if we was in arsenals position, we would have been fuming if their pen wasn't given and if eze's was given against us. As poor as the ref was we was gifted 30 mins against 10 men and couldn't make it count, I dont think we even had a shot on target did we ?

 

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View Palace Old Geezer's Profile Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 22 Aug 23 10.10am Send a Private Message to Palace Old Geezer Add Palace Old Geezer as a friend

Just don't mention 'professional' fouls to me, it's cheating which, in any sport not just football, should never be allowed let alone encouraged.

 


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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 22 Aug 23 10.10am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

There was quite a bit of time wasting, but ironically the worst of it wasn't Tomiyasu on that throw in. Him going off took about two minutes, however. All of their subs and goal kicks took ages, their later throws took longer.I wouldn't think that 7 minutes was long enough. Personally don't feel that Tomiyasu did enough to get sent off. Some fouls against us were soft. That wasn't the worst reffing we're going to see as Palace fans this season. I was interested in the way Arsenal bought the penalty but ours was unconvincing. The game is so silly these days that we better look at that.

 


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View Putitout's Profile Putitout Flag Oxford 22 Aug 23 10.37am Send a Private Message to Putitout Add Putitout as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

The game is so silly these days that we better look at that.

Totally agree, the game has taken on a silly element , the modern player has to be as adept at conning the ref and everyone else , as actually showing real ability on and off the ball. Players have basically embraced the same art that is the basis of professional wrestling, what you see is not what actually happened. Just a touch is all it needs the (actor,) player, does the rest. Looking at last nights penalty, really clever by Arsenal, that’s the game now. But two things one difficult to remedy, in real time, real life Johnson’s hands would probably not have brought down someone that didn’t want to go down. The second more worrying in some ways for the game was the block it’s illegal no matter how certain commentators view it. So what is the use of VAR? And if it’s thought the blocked player was blocked to easily we really are in trouble.

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 22 Aug 23 10.47am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

If it would be considered 'incorrect' to say Arsenal were cheating last night then the least I could say is that given the players at their disposal etc they certainly looked to be relying upon tactics outside of pure footballing ability to win the match.

They wasted time at every available opportunity, threw themselves to the ground on multiple occasions (there was actually one incident, I think it was Partey, where his doing this was quite literal right in front of me, utterly ridiculous) and their football was not even admirable/entertaining to watch, employing underhand tactics as though this is clever or any achievement.

All that said I think they did not deserve a win but more so that we deserved nothing from the match. We didn't seem to have any answers to the questions they asked of us especially when down to ten men. That aptly named Coote seemed intimidated and unfamiliar with the game being played around him with the sending off just one of many dubious decisions which I felt mostly boded in their favour.

Were we to have got even a point my commentary would probably be more loaded toward praising of our team, who I think played very well beyond a lapse of concentration and lack of threat up top, but either way I'd like to believe I still would've thought it was a bit of a 'crap match'.

C'est la vie and on to the next one. Brentford may well offer more for us, unlucky not to get the win there last season.

 


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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 22 Aug 23 10.55am Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by Westina

Accepting we didn’t deserve to win last night and coming away pleased with our overall performance ( except we should have peppered the goal more) I feel very frustrated about how Arsenal conducted themselves.
I watch players time wasting which I suppose is a part of our game but the level of time wasting last night was disappointing..and what made it even worse was Arteta talking about using stop watches to time players taking throw ins….he said it was 8 seconds…what an idiot as it was over 40 seconds between two players who were involved.
There was also little mention by all the Arsenal people like Piers mouth Morgan who complained bitterly about the sending off but nothing about the fact that the Arsenal penalty should have been disallowed as our defender was illegally blocked off denying us the ability to defend properly…this is cheating.
So time wasting cheating Arsenal are joint top of the league.
I hope that fair play City and even the scum on the south coast finish higher.

You failed to mention Ayew going down under the slightest touch from the Arsenal defender to get him sent off!
7 minutes was added at the end for time wasting. Arsenal were the better team, they just shut up shop, when down to 10 men.
If your going to comment, try and be unbiased.

 

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View Westina's Profile Westina Flag 22 Aug 23 11.10am Send a Private Message to Westina Add Westina as a friend

Painter I rarely comment or reply on this forum but to say that my comment was unbiased is daft…did you go to the game last night?
Ayew went down as he was pulled back by a player who had just been booked..
7 minutes at the end for time wasting when you see how much time is added on in other games…both Vatr decisions took 3 minutes each ..let alone all the time wasting….
Cheating Arsenal.

 

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View Westina's Profile Westina Flag 22 Aug 23 11.11am Send a Private Message to Westina Add Westina as a friend

Sorry VAR.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 22 Aug 23 11.14am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

If it would be considered 'incorrect' to say Arsenal were cheating last night then the least I could say is that given the players at their disposal etc they certainly looked to be relying upon tactics outside of pure footballing ability to win the match.

They wasted time at every available opportunity, threw themselves to the ground on multiple occasions (there was actually one incident, I think it was Partey, where his doing this was quite literal right in front of me, utterly ridiculous) and their football was not even admirable/entertaining to watch, employing underhand tactics as though this is clever or any achievement.

All that said I think they did not deserve a win but more so that we deserved nothing from the match. We didn't seem to have any answers to the questions they asked of us especially when down to ten men. That aptly named Coote seemed intimidated and unfamiliar with the game being played around him with the sending off just one of many dubious decisions which I felt mostly boded in their favour.

Were we to have got even a point my commentary would probably be more loaded toward praising of our team, who I think played very well beyond a lapse of concentration and lack of threat up top, but either way I'd like to believe I still would've thought it was a bit of a 'crap match'.

C'est la vie and on to the next one. Brentford may well offer more for us, unlucky not to get the win there last season.

I agree. The way Arsenal managed their play was embarrassing and could not be held up as a great advert for the beautiful game.

 

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View YT's Profile YT Online Flag Oxford 22 Aug 23 11.40am Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

I fully sympathise with the view that, by current standards, the time added on to the 2nd half was woefully inadequate. However, the fact is that we could have played all night and still wouldn't have scored or even looked like scoring. We have to find a way to overcome our shortcomings - primarily our poor goalscoring record - then perhaps we will have the initiative in games like this and the likes of Arsenal won't have the opportunity to be so adept at "managing the game".

 


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